Posted on 05/23/2015 5:30:48 PM PDT by PapaBear3625
Nuclear power plant technicians, senior military officers, FBI contractors and an employee of “a highly-secretive Department of Defense agency” with a Top Secret clearance. Those are just a few of the more than 100 people with sensitive military and government connections that law enforcement is tracking because they are linked to “outlaw motorcycle gangs.”
A year before the deadly Texas shootout that killed nine people on May 17, a lengthy report by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives detailed the involvement of U.S. military personnel and government employees in outlaw motorcycle gangs, or OMGs. A copy of the report was obtained by The Intercept.
The report lays out, in almost obsessive detail, the extent to which OMG members are represented in nearly every part of the military, and in federal and local government, from police and fire departments to state utility agencies. Specific examples from the report include dozens of Defense Department contractors with Secret or Top Secret clearances; multiple FBI contractors; radiological technicians with security clearances; U.S. Department of Homeland Security employees; Army, Navy and Air Force active-duty personnel, including from the special operations force community; and police officers.
(Excerpt) Read more at firstlook.org ...
“Who has that lovely photo of the guy who wore shorts and flip-flops while on his bike?”
While simultaneously protesting helmet and loud muffler regulation.
These things can all be accomplished without defining a group as sub-human -- something you explicitly did.
My way is how the Republic was founded; your way is tyranny.
“ALL humans have the right to a trial, to face their accusers, to appeal a guilty verdict. “
I agree 100%.
“My way is how the Republic was founded; your way is tyranny. “
There seems to be some confusion. I completely agree with the constitution as I believe you do. I am not sure why you are at odds with me on this in your posts.
Then who wrote it where? and why is the author not named next to the quote?
I cannot see this shoot out going down the way it did if the LEOs were posturing with a heavily armed, in your face presence. IE: stationed all around the outside of the restaurant in plain sight. Stationed inside the restaurant, even if it meant that they had to order meals.
My jaded instinct is that they wanted/hoped to engage with deadly force and simply needed a legal/just cause to fire on the bikers. Posturing would have/may have defeated that goal.
The very public attack/war by bikers on bikers, contradicts their 1% ethos in every way. See MC 101. http://www.rcvsmc.net/index.html
If a reading of the code is any indication, the Cossacks are likely going to find themselves under extreme duress from here on out. By their sheer appearance, they violated the 1% code in a most egregious way. After reading the code (in their words) it is quite possible that the Bandidos did open up on the Cossacks with gunfire, due to their perceived belligerence, and in doing so, set off the LEO fusillade.
That being said- what are the rules of engagement for the LEOs? Was a command to fire given or required by the teams' commander?
Curiouser and curiouser.
TG - Your attempt to move away from excusing rights violations of people YOU deem sub-human is interesting and noted.
Obfuscate all you want TG, but the facts are enduring. You called some bikers “sub-human.” LAZ has called you out on it. You own it.
“Then who wrote it where? and why is the author not named next to the quote?”
Take it up with Laz. The post was to him, not you.
“Obfuscate all you want TG, but the facts are enduring. You called some bikers “sub-human.” LAZ has called you out on it. You own it.”
I have posted to Laz that I agree with him 100%. I had no problem with his definition of sub-human.
It’s obvious that Adolf, I mean Texas Gator, dug into Laz’s history to copy paste into 545. Adolf, I mean Texas Gator, is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Does this “progressive” fascist clown believe we haven’t noticed he’s guilty of everything he’s accused you of doing?
What a maroon!
I’m starting to get that feeling
Kinda disingenuous
“It is also not uncommon for the dominant club of an area to select some of their prospects from the best of the ranks of the other clubs. In fact some clubs have been established with this sole purpose in mind.”
Did you see in Australia where one ‘club’ paid the HA’s six million to take in a bunch of HA’s into their club?
“It’s obvious that Adolf, I mean Texas Gator, dug into Laz’s history to copy paste into 545. Adolf, I mean Texas Gator, is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.”
I am glad I did. I am getting along much better with Laz now that I understand.
“... I recovered. ...”
Your childlike, attention seeking, “troll hunting” behavior here is NOT evidence of recovery.
I know a guy now that has about 17-18 years, clean and sober. For about the first 10 years, he continued his sick childlike humor, for which he should have been embarrassed. He didn’t notice himself, because he was running at the mouth almost continuously.
Eventually, probably because people in the program told him so, he grew up, calmed down, shut up, and starting acting like a good example of “recovery.”
You might want to ask yourself if posting the picture of the Down Syndrome couple is something you should make amends for. Because your intent to insult the poster here, was beyond the pale, in horrible taste.
Do you know how to make an amend? If you do not see the need for the amend, then your claim to recovery is ridiculous.
Let's make sure he is apprised of this.
Ok
Are you smearing Ronald Reagan in that fell stroke as a segregationist?
You have the stench of a reverse racist Mac you always have you and your whole little posse of south haters
Why don’t you ever whine about Yankee racism?
So what’s your personal gripe
Please don’t plead naive noble idealism
You guys always argue like little junior high girls
It only take 2-3 paragraphs to get you to play your big cards
Racist bigot segregationist whatever
Problem you have son is folks here nowadays detest the use of those labels to shut folks down so you can’t get traction anymore
You might feel better personally but you’re in the minority here now tossing out firebombs that mighta worked 10 years ago for you and whiskey papa and non sequitur but not now
Btw does JR. know you think Ronald Reagan is a racist for opposing the 64 CRA?
I got a feeling that Pig don’t fly straight Frank
“Let’s make sure he is apprised of this. “
Yes, I have. Thank you.
He believes we are getting along better because on his side, he has the mistaken impression we're all cool (for whatever bizarre reason).
My impression of it scarcely enters into his consciousness.
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