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DUTCH SEA LEVEL RISE EXPERT: MIAMI WILL BE "THE NEW ATLANTIS," A CITY IN THE SEA
Miami New Times ^ | 5/21/15 | Jessica Weis

Posted on 05/22/2015 3:49:39 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

...after Hurricane Sandy bared down on New York, killing over 150 people and wreaking $65 billion in damage, federal leaders cried for help to make the Northeast more flood-proof. Dutch expert Henk Ovink answered.....

... there's good cause to be worried when the Dutch expert says there’s no place in worse shape today than Miami. He’s begun calling the city “the new Atlantis,” after the legendary and beautiful island subcontinent that was submerged by the sea in one night.

“If we look around the world and take into account sea level rise and the increase of water related disasters, among the places in the world that have the most assets and investments at risk, Miami is leading that list,” Ovink tells New Times. “Miami will no longer be a land city, but a city in the sea.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: environment; fearmongering; liars; weather
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To: exnavy
Maybe Henk Ovink should write a song.

A Møøse once bit my sister...

21 posted on 05/22/2015 4:23:28 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: silverleaf

I’m using that one!

CC


22 posted on 05/22/2015 4:25:08 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Sufficient unto the day are the troubles therof)
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To: silverleaf
"you know what happens when the ice melts in your glass and makes the glass overflow ...."

If it takes 10,000 years for the ice to finish melting then it's something I don't worry about.

23 posted on 05/22/2015 4:30:23 AM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: jsanders2001
Well after finding another water trends page on the NOAA site, it says there is a .433 millimeters per year increase. If that's the case its going o be a helluva a lot longer than a 100 years and that's only if the trend comtinues. Here's a chart that shows just how small .433 mm is. It would be a little less than half of 1 mm:

So basicall the guy is full of shiite. I also noted that "water trends" is a new category on the NOAA site which I bet was requested by the administration. They arrows all over a map of the US where water levels are up but after looking at the actual data on them the sea level rises are so minimal I get the impression they are probably there to create "the sky is falling" pandemonium

24 posted on 05/22/2015 4:40:15 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: samtheman

Exactly. He has been doing this for some time now: Creating his own demand.


25 posted on 05/22/2015 4:43:17 AM PDT by bjc (Show me the data!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Remember that coastal America and the Pacific islands like Vanuatu were all supposed to be underwater by 2010?

These people move their forecast dates almost as fast as Obama can move a Red Line.


26 posted on 05/22/2015 4:44:39 AM PDT by Iron Munro (We may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they aren't really after us)
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To: jsanders2001

The continents are always rising or falling, nothing new.

Finland is rising,a result of “ice age rebound,” and rising at a much faster rate than whatever change is happening in the Netherlands.

Also, think about displacement: If the sea is receding in one place, it causes sea level to rise in other places. So “cherry picking” stats is very easy. Of COURSE sea level is rising in some places. Always has, always will.


27 posted on 05/22/2015 4:46:29 AM PDT by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: SoFloFreeper

He is parroting the FReeper bert.

Anyone that watches and observes carefully the opening video sequences of CSI Miami can instantly make that judgement.

The same fools that bought property certain to be ravaged by on high water on Staten Island had foolish cousins buying property certain to be ravaged by high water in Miami


28 posted on 05/22/2015 4:47:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: cookcounty

There are atolls in the Pacific that the Marines fought the Japs over 70 years ago that are only a few feet above sea level. They are still there....


29 posted on 05/22/2015 4:48:31 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Hurricane Sandy bared down

It got naked?

30 posted on 05/22/2015 4:51:45 AM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: jsanders2001

A new analysis of global tidal gauge data by Jevrejeva et al (2014) suggests that the increase is less than 2 mm per year since 1970. That is an inch every 13 or 14 years or 7 inches per century. There are definitely substantial regional variations and there is even more local variation due to land settling or rising - isostatic changes. I believe what is more significant for Miami is waterfront development and the diverting of tidal flows from some areas into others, extraction of groundwater and the sheer mass of structures on the shoreline.

Your image is helpful but needs to be shrunk to scale. Currently your 1” looks like 3” on my screen.


31 posted on 05/22/2015 4:59:13 AM PDT by bjc (Show me the data!)
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To: cookcounty

Meant to mention those stats were gor Miami’s sea level trends. The guy is nuts. The data isn’t matching up with ehat he’s saying. Another liberal who’s hitnthe bong too much and has some money in the bank he wan’s to invest in green products or some new sea barrier technology (or some crap like that)


32 posted on 05/22/2015 4:59:49 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: headstamp 2
And Sandy wasn't even at hurricane force when it made landfall.

There were plenty of hurricanes that hit the Northeast in the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s and earlier decades -- the difference is that the coastal areas weren't as built up or heavily populated back then. People were lulled into a false sense of security by the fewer major hurricanes that made landfall in the decades that followed. There is a reason that "hurricane lamps" and "hurricane shutters" were invented. In the 1930s, 1940s, 1950s, being without electric power for a time wasn't as painful as it is today.


33 posted on 05/22/2015 4:59:53 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: bjc

> Your image is helpful but needs to be shrunk to scale. Currently your 1” looks like 3” on my screen.

Its to scale on my screen but then I’m on a tablet.


34 posted on 05/22/2015 5:03:21 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

> Meant to mention those stats were for Miami’s sea level trends. The guy is nuts. The data isn’t matching up with what he’s saying. Another liberal who’s hit the bong too much and has some money in the bank he wants to invest in green products or some new sea barrier technology (or some crap like that)


35 posted on 05/22/2015 5:04:44 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Sooth2222
eg:


36 posted on 05/22/2015 5:05:23 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("In a democracy people get the leaders they deserve." - Joseph de Maistre, 1753-1821)
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To: SoFloFreeper

We’ve also heard from the warmunist set that snow would be a memory by now. I guess to that end, they’re somewhat correct.. but every winter, even here in Virginia, that memory is very much a recurring one.


37 posted on 05/22/2015 5:18:56 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Is this the type of expert that says that the seas are rising quicker than predicted? That would mean that the models are wrong!


38 posted on 05/22/2015 5:34:59 AM PDT by MinstrelBoy (If you're a conservative today, you're a hero.)
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To: IronJack

Right on with the grammar check! The level of basic illiteracy among the commentariat ensures I’ll stay in “IGNORE” mode on the rest of their columns.


39 posted on 05/22/2015 5:36:04 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Oh gee whiz, Batman!

Central Louisiana is only 85 feet above sea level.
What would that make New Orleans?


40 posted on 05/22/2015 5:47:31 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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