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North Korea Submarine Missile Footage Isn't Real, U.S. Admiral Says
NBC News ^ | 5/20/2015

Posted on 05/20/2015 5:03:08 AM PDT by McGruff

Photos showing a North Korean missile launched from a submarine were manipulated by state propagandists, a top U.S. military official said on Tuesday.

North Korea, heavily sanctioned by the United States and United Nations for its missile and nuclear tests, said on May 9 it had successfully conducted an underwater test-fire of a submarine-launched ballistic missile. If true, it would indicate progress in its pursuit of building missile-equipped submarines.

On Wednesday, the North warned Washington not to challenge its sovereign right to boost military deterrence and boasted of its ability to miniaturize nuclear warheads, a claim it has made before and which has been widely questioned by experts and never verified.

But Pyongyang is still "many years" from developing submarine-launched ballistic missiles, U.S. Admiral James Winnefeld told an audience at the Centre for Strategic & International Studies in Washington on Tuesday.

"They have not gotten as far as their clever video editors and spinmeisters would have us believe," said Winnefeld, who is vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Analysis seen by Reuters from German aerospace engineers Markus Schiller and Robert Schmucker of Schmucker Technologie appeared to support Winnefeld's statement.

The Munich-based pair said photos of the launch were "strongly modified," including reflections of the missile exhaust flame in the water which did not line up with the missile itself.

North Korea, which regularly threatens to destroy the United States, had a track record of offering faked proof to claim significant advances in missile technology, Schiller and Schmucker said, such as poorly built mockups of missiles on display at military parades in 2012 and 2013.

A photo on state TV showed a missile high in the sky leaving a trail of white smoke, whereas other photos from state media showed no white smoke, suggesting the two photos were of different missiles with different propulsion systems, Schiller and Schmucker said.


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1 posted on 05/20/2015 5:03:08 AM PDT by McGruff
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2 posted on 05/20/2015 5:05:33 AM PDT by McGruff (What did Hillary know and when did she know it?)
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Kim Jong Un is just one big puffer fish it seems...


3 posted on 05/20/2015 5:07:31 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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Reports indicate that North Korean submarines designed to operate in warm climates include screen doors.


4 posted on 05/20/2015 5:08:15 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Where are the Freeper photo shop masters?


5 posted on 05/20/2015 5:09:57 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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Just rike Daddy


6 posted on 05/20/2015 5:14:29 AM PDT by mabarker1 (congress, The Opposite of Progress.)
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Didn't your daddy ever tell you not to smoke near ballistic missiles.

8 posted on 05/20/2015 5:18:52 AM PDT by McGruff (What did Hillary know and when did she know it?)
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I guess I am conflicted on this story.
Who are we to believe, NBC News? Known liars and manipulators of the news. North Korea? Known liars and manipulators of the news.


9 posted on 05/20/2015 5:26:02 AM PDT by Tupelo (I fell more like Phillip Nolan every day.)
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“Who are we to believe, NBC News? Known liars and manipulators of the news. North Korea? Known liars and manipulators of the news.”.......

SOOOOOOOOOOO many and so little time.


10 posted on 05/20/2015 5:45:00 AM PDT by DaveA37
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Why doesn’t someone on that NK boat just push Fat Boy overboard? It would have been so easy.


11 posted on 05/20/2015 5:50:45 AM PDT by StormEye
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Bkmrk.


12 posted on 05/20/2015 5:54:29 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: McGruff
Compare the two images: the first is a verified launch from a submarine. the second is NK's alleged launch.

NK is really bad at photoshop...

13 posted on 05/20/2015 5:57:14 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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Looks real to me:


14 posted on 05/20/2015 5:58:02 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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The mainstream media should give some lessons to North Korea on how to publish "fake but accurate" material.

They have plenty of practice.


15 posted on 05/20/2015 5:59:24 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Someone will stand in front of that missile for this!


16 posted on 05/20/2015 5:59:52 AM PDT by armydawg505
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Way too much angle on the missile. Should be nearly vertical. Why would you "shoot" at an angle through more water to reach the surface (at a given depth)?

Edges of the exhaust cloud are too sharp on the right near the top, too soft/blended on the lower left.

Sea surface too calm, no wave/spray from forcing the missile and gas bubble through it? Come on...

Exhaust cloud too dirty. Even if they were using an ugly gas generator... This looks like an exhaust and debris plume from a ground based launch.

Just what I see in 2 min, before coffee.

17 posted on 05/20/2015 6:04:20 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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Of course it is a fake. The problem is though if they can fake it, they can think it. Given the proliferation / theft of technology, eventually they will come up with a working version. Then the Norks will be the mouse that roared.
18 posted on 05/20/2015 6:10:53 AM PDT by buckalfa (I am feeling much better now.)
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The Iranians did the same thing with a missile launch photo they released. It has been widely Photoshopped for fun.


19 posted on 05/20/2015 6:11:24 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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Of course it is a fake. The problem is though if they can fake it, they can think it. Given the proliferation / theft of technology, eventually they will come up with a working version.

Our leader does the same thing and gets away with it.


20 posted on 05/20/2015 6:16:40 AM PDT by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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