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Officials reveal TWO Philadelphia-area trains were 'shot at' within minutes of crash
Daily Mail ^ | 12:51 EST, 17 May 2015 | Daily Mail Staff

Posted on 05/17/2015 7:39:22 PM PDT by jonatron

Federal officials this weekend revealed the train that crashed Tuesday, killing 8, was one of two struck by objects that day.
Investigators are now looking into the possibility the doomed train's windshield was struck in the moments before the crash.
Amtrak, meanwhile, has been ordered to expand speed-restriction system in area of derailment in Philadelphia.
NTSB investigators, however, said Sunday that no communication from the train indicated it had been hit by an object.

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EPTA, Southeast Pennsylvania Transportation Authority, said there's no indication the object that hit the commuter rail train is related to the Amtrak derailment.

Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter on Friday reports of an unknown projectile 'had nothing to do' with the deadly crash.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: amtrak; domesticterrorism; rail; sabotage
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To: wintertime
I am willing to wait for the investigation results.

What a novel concept!

(congratulations.)

81 posted on 05/18/2015 5:18:07 AM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: jonatron

a bullet as big as a grapefruit!. The train is going at 106 mph goes off the tracks and there are trees, rocks and whatever other objects going flying. here is the scenario - as the train goes off the track, the train also strikes a small brick embankment, there are trees and rocks alongside the trackside. there is so much debris flying that window is struck by a grapefruit size rock as it continues on down the trackside till it stops. Because another track stated there was a projectile that hit another commuter train in the area. It is now the MO the train was struck by a projectile. BS!


82 posted on 05/18/2015 5:21:11 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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To: jurroppi1; kvanbrunt2

OK, I just watched a video of one of these (apparently the same locomotive involved in the crash) pulling 8 empty Amfleet cars. 0 to 106ish took just under two minutes. 70 to 106ish (1:18 mark of the video to the ~2:08 mark) took just under a minute.

what I considered the start time is when the blue gauge on the left of the readout panel started rising.

My guess is that this train was loaded heavier than the one in the video, so the numbers are probably skewed in the locomotive’s favor in the video.


83 posted on 05/18/2015 5:24:10 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: jonatron

If it was an act of terrorism would our government try and cover that up if it could?


84 posted on 05/18/2015 5:24:57 AM PDT by Usagi_yo (Abuse rolls down hill.)
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To: jurroppi1; kvanbrunt2

Drat, I forgot to post the link to the video. Sorry about the multiple posts, here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJMhKgEnnNc


85 posted on 05/18/2015 5:25:34 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: House Atreides

Amazing...you are correct...I cannot believe the lengths they are going to to protect this guy. If he wasn’t gay, they would have hung him in print by now.


86 posted on 05/18/2015 5:27:47 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ($$$$$ Don't Defund the Government...Defund Obama and his illegal policies $$$$$)
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To: jonatron

Has nothing to do with the speed of the train unless the phallic obsessed engineer was dodging bullets. Someone wants to divert attention from the engineer.


87 posted on 05/18/2015 5:38:37 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: dragnet2

#16 Perhaps the railroad did not trim the brush growing between the rails. Yeah that would explain the branches.

Now if they can come up with why the train went from 80mph to 106mph in 1 minute besides already being 30mph over the 50mph speed limit in the first place.
How are they to explain that away?


88 posted on 05/18/2015 6:22:07 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: Leaning Right
The engineer controls the train with a throttle in his left hand (pull back to go faster) it has detents that are in 10 mph increments. On the right is the brake lever, it too has detents with full rear is maximum emergency braking.

So it is possible that a strike to the windshield could cause the engineer rotate away towards the rear pulling the throttle to the rear, thus the increase in speed.

89 posted on 05/18/2015 6:39:47 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: wintertime

I caught a big chunk of ice while passing a tractor trailer truck on I-95. Probably 16” diameter and a few inches thick. Hit the windshield flat right in the center. Scary. About 1/4 of the windshield was smashed but nothing penetrated, fortunately.


90 posted on 05/18/2015 6:57:25 AM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: rdl6989

The train’s “enginequeer”.


91 posted on 05/18/2015 7:42:07 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: USMCPOP

Wow. Did you get the name of the company? You should at least try to get the cost of repairing the damaged window back.


92 posted on 05/18/2015 7:48:53 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: re_nortex

He may be a homo but what a cool hat.....


93 posted on 05/18/2015 9:05:52 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepuplic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: jsanders2001

My theory of what happen is what happened to the Germanwings flight.

I would not be surprised if Brandon enginequeer knew the pilot of Germanwings.


94 posted on 05/18/2015 9:30:25 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: House Atreides

Instinct would tell anyone in that situation ( if ? It did happen, as they are bull crapping us ) would be to slow down and get off the road as quick and safely as possible, not speed up.


95 posted on 05/18/2015 9:33:19 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: jurroppi1

Remember the rated speed could have been with no load, but you are correct, it takes a while to move that much weight behind you.

These are not Indy Race cars.


96 posted on 05/18/2015 9:56:37 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I made a few follow-up posts to my original. There is a video I linked to upthread where the same exact locomotive that was involved in the crash was being tested with 8 cars attached. It took just under a minute to accelerate from 70MPH to 106 MPH. About 2 minutes from 0 to 106.


97 posted on 05/18/2015 10:22:14 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: minnesota_bound

Those trees would most likely be on the side of the tracks when the train derailed.

Most likely poison suamock trees with the oval shaped leaves.

Queers lied, people died, they are covering up for this Pudge packer, they are lying to us.

The damage to the engine and windshield is consisnant of it derailing hitting a few catenary line poles, hitting those poison suamock trees that grow on the side of those tracks.

What the eye witnesses saw and heard was the train hitting the catenary line poles, the explosion, or rather sparks from more than 10,000 volts from the electricfied copper catenary lines being pulled down from the force of the poles falling, snapped, hit the ground and other metal objects, hitting the windshield like a whip.

Other objects like rocks, the insulators hitting the windshield caused that damage.

The front window pillor was damaged from the force of the train hitting the catenary line poles, damaged the right side of the train causing deep gouges, srapes on it’s right side.

No projectiles hit that engine other than the catenary copper lines, the electrical insulators, and ballest rocks from the rail bed.

They are lying to us to protect this enginequeer.


98 posted on 05/18/2015 10:52:08 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: jurroppi1

Yes, but those cars on that test run were empty.

No passengers, no luggage, no water.


99 posted on 05/18/2015 10:55:24 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: jsanders2001

Thanks for posting this link. Some scary data/reality in this study.

We know a retired medical person, who does something similar re local obits.

This person’s flag is a death of a male between 35-45, not married or a male partner is listed. Reading of the obit, often reveals more data.

We live in an area with fairly long life spans. So a flag is raised when a person 45 or younger dies and not due to an accident.

However, after reading your link, fatal accidents may be another predictor of being a homosexual. The two paragraphs below come from the article you linked.

“About 15 percent of the obituaries were of people who did not die of AIDS. The life expectancy of such homosexual men was age 42 and nine percent lived to be 65. This compares with 75 percent of “straight”, married males who reach age 65. The lesbian life expectancy was age 46 and 24 percent reached the age of 65 compared with 85 percent of married women. Subtract three years of longevity for AIDS sufferers. The male and female life expectancy of AIDS sufferers is 39 and 43 years, respectively. Of homosexual males with AIDS only one percent reached age 65, as compared to 73 percent of married males. Nine percent of AIDS-stricken lesbians reached age 65 as compared to 85 percent of married females.”

“Homosexual practices have serious side-effects other than an increase in illnesses and early death for the practitioners. First, most homosexuals contract the HIV virus. As early as July of 1987, Navy Surgeon General J.A. Zimble recommended reassigning flight-crew personnel who tested positive for HIV, because of HIV’s apparent deleterious effect on the nervous system. We find interesting evidence in other statistics: death by motor vehicle accident is 18 times as likely for homosexual men as for white males; the death rate of homosexual men in other accidents is 10 times higher than it is for white males. The heart failure rate indicates both stress and the toll of disease on the cardiovascular systems of homosexual: the death rate was 22 times that of white males in the 25-54 age range. The suicide rates, homicide rates and rates of death from other causes were similarly elevated compared to statistics from any comparable group of the general public.”


100 posted on 05/18/2015 11:25:42 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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