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Baltic countries to ask NATO for thousands of permanent troops
World Affairs Journal ^ | May 15, 2015

Posted on 05/16/2015 6:41:25 PM PDT by robowombat

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To: MinorityRepublican

Ukraine isn’t a part of our military alliance.

You might get more useful information by looking at how much trouble the Russian military is having with them, and what it is costing Russia.

The invasion of Ukraine has done wonders for improving our NATO forces and unity, and in helping conservative politicians promote a stronger defense posture.

Putin has been great for shaking the cobwebs off of NATO and even the non-NATO nations.


21 posted on 05/16/2015 8:03:30 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Tea Party Terrorist

That’s right. We need all that treasure and blood to further entangle ourselves in the centuries old Middle East conflicts.

Gotta have priorities.


22 posted on 05/16/2015 8:14:13 PM PDT by Lorianne (fed pork, bailouts, gone taxmoney)
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To: Dallas59

What a great idea! And they’d have a pay check then!


23 posted on 05/16/2015 8:27:49 PM PDT by caww
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To: kearnyirish2
Who couldn't see this coming, really. Just as with Poland who's been beating their chests for years that Nato pay them the attention they wanted....so Ukraine got them what they wanted...and now the rest are following suit.

Anybody take a look at how much these countries have set aside for their own military? I rather figure they likely haven't paid their share just as all the others haven't. Now they're “A-feared” so send the money, the bases and the military...

Disgusting really.....the US has been on all their cases for not doing their part for their countries defense for eons now.

24 posted on 05/16/2015 8:32:13 PM PDT by caww
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To: ansel12

“You might get more useful information by looking at how much trouble the Russian military is having with them, and what it is costing Russia.”

Ukraine isn’t “costing” Russia much of anything from a cash standpoint.

The Civil War in Ukraine, for the rebel side, is being fought strictly from inventory.

Tanks and guns, and ammo, from the incredibly massive 60’s and 70’s Russian stockpiles, for the most part. There are some exceptions that have shown up since late October, like the 80’s-era AT Missiles.

The only cost to Russia is loading and shipping.

And a lot of it coming from the Kiev Army, too, in the form of captured equipment and ammo, as well as corrupt officers and other Ukrainians outright selling stuff to them.


25 posted on 05/16/2015 9:13:01 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: caww

“I rather figure they likely haven’t paid their share just as all the others haven’t.”

Poland only spends 1,8-1.9% of it’s GDP on Defense, well less than 50% of it’s treaty obligation, at least through 2012.
http://militarybudget.org/poland/

I believe that has changed in the last year, to almost 4%.


26 posted on 05/16/2015 9:16:22 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: robowombat

They have no people of their own? No unemployment?


27 posted on 05/16/2015 9:24:24 PM PDT by GeronL (NEW ARRIVALS -> 99 cents buy here: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/541331)
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To: tcrlaf

It is costing them hugely, and the negative financial and international effects will last for a very long time.

I doubt that anyone is interested in how much they are spending on bullets.


28 posted on 05/16/2015 9:25:52 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Wasn’t talking about financial effects, I was talking direct costs.

And the financial effects have eased, as well.


29 posted on 05/16/2015 9:38:44 PM PDT by tcrlaf (They told me it could never happen in America. And then it did....)
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To: tcrlaf

Seriously, the day to day costs are not of much interest one way or the other.


30 posted on 05/16/2015 9:40:48 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: robowombat

euroweenies wont budge an inch and obola will just smile.


31 posted on 05/17/2015 3:18:12 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
A spokesman for the Lithuanian army commander added that the countries were asking for a battalion, around 700 to 800 soldiers, of rotating troops in every Baltic state...
And while everyone is watching that, some Chechens need to be induced to go blow themselves up, taking Putin with them.
32 posted on 05/17/2015 7:26:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Lorianne

No thanks.


33 posted on 05/17/2015 8:48:00 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: Lorianne

The only US money I would be willing to spend on the Middle East is to build a wall around the entire region, then fill it with water.


34 posted on 05/17/2015 8:49:00 AM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: ansel12

I hope not (have Lithuanian acquaintances; good people).


35 posted on 05/17/2015 10:55:44 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: caww

I don’t know that Poland has been as lax as Ukraine (who sold a lot of their weapons to raise cash when they first separated - trying to have guns & butter at the same time, without upsetting the socialist status quo). Poland has even more reason to be vigilant; they’ve dealt with a two-front war, and it wasn’t pretty.


36 posted on 05/17/2015 10:58:00 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2
Poland's dream wish has always been to have US bases in Poland..... the missile defense system by Bush, which Obama scrubbed in 2009, was intended to protect against future missiles ‘from Iran’.

Aside from that... Poland wants the revenues that will ensue by having bases there.....in Germany whole survive because of revenues generated from US bases.

37 posted on 05/17/2015 11:30:10 AM PDT by caww
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To: kearnyirish2

I’m glad to have Poland on our side.


38 posted on 05/17/2015 3:16:40 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

They are serious devout people; I’d rather be with them than against them.


39 posted on 05/17/2015 6:11:47 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: caww

I didn’t know we had none yet; I thought at least we had Gitmo-type places to deatin Muzzies there.


40 posted on 05/17/2015 6:14:24 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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