Posted on 05/14/2015 12:32:13 PM PDT by dware
In a burst of bipartisanship, the Republican-controlled Senate put President Obama's trade agenda back on course on Thursday, clearing the way for likely approval within days for legislation allowing the administration to negotiate global deals that Congress could support or reject but not change.
The 65-33 vote to resurrect the measure capped two days of political intrigue in which Democrats on both sides of the legislation initially joined forces to block action, then reached agreement with Republicans for votes on other enforcement measures to protect workers who lose jobs as a result of exports.
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Nope. Not a politician. That’s for darn sure. There seems to be something about that career field that makes them check their consciences at the door.
The dam has burst and America is drowning in stupidity.
"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."~Sam Adams
People that can’t vote correctly won’t do anything but accept facism when it comes fully dressed in jackboots.
Cha-ching! $$$
You know who is really strong on securing our borders and opposing amnesty for illegal aliens? Russ Feingold.
I disagree with Johnson on that, but can recognize that his position isn’t as bad as that of Feingold (Johnson is against deporting illegals, but not giving them citizenship), and that his position is not much different from that of Ted Cruz. But then again, I can think for myself.
Well shucks, Maybe both can apply to Grover to have their ACU ratings boosted if the muslims allow it.
The money would explain part of it. I guess they view it as their due for having gotten where they’re at.
Its obvious that I have no future career in politics. Sad. I would have liked to have served.
I don’t think it has been voted on yet. I could be wrong. I think cloture has passed but Ted Cruz got his amendment filed this time. McConnell was unable to cut him off like he did on the Iran bill. I don’t think McConnell could cut him off because the dems wanted their amendments in the bill.
My thinking is the Cruz amendment is the ball game. Who is going to vote down the Cruz amendment? If they do it basically is saying they give all immigration power to Obama and the internationalists. Cruz’ amendment puts the kabosh on that scenario.
We need to watch carefully the vote on the Cruz amendment.
The rest of the bill gives authority to Obama to negotiate trade deals. That’s a big item in itself but I am thinking Obama wanted to do an end-run around the injunction against his Executive Amnesty using this trade bill. He wants a 5 million to 11 million new voting bloc for the 2016 elections, or more accurately the hard core left behind Obama want that.
The rest of the bill is to be renewed in 2018 if the then President requests renewal. President Cruz will likely do the right thing then. But Obama gets 2 years to mess with trade. But like I said I think he wants to import that large illegal voting bloc more than anything else.
Norm...just think, you gave all this up for awhile.
:-)
I figure I have a few days left in me and I’m back out. Every ‘break’ gets me away longer. Hopefully the next one is permanent. By zot or by choice doesn’t really matter.
We’ll see. I’d like to think there is some higher level chess game being played, but given recent history, I doubt it.
I don’t like the idea of any politician being given special exemplary powers. Power has always corrupted.
Cruz. See post # 58.
I ran for State House in New Mexico in 2000. I lost, which is probably for the best.
Welcome to the club ;~)
No. And never should we.
Also here a passage from this link shows how Obama will go around any
amendment prohibiting change to immigration law :
“Thus, at any point during the 6-year life of TPA, the Administration could send Congress a trade deal—or issue an executive action subsequent to a trade deal as part of its implementation—that increased foreign worker entry into the U.S., all while claiming it has never changed immigration law.”
http://www.conservativehq.com/node/20233
This language, and other language in TPA, offers an obvious way for the Administration to expand the number and duration of foreign worker entries under the concept that the movement of foreign workers into U.S. jobs constitutes “trade in services.”
Stating that “TPP contains no change to immigration law” is a semantic rather than a factual argument. Language already present in both TPA and TPP provide the basis for admitting more foreign workers, and for longer periods of time, and language could later be added to TPP or any future trade deal to further increase such admissions.
The President has already subjected American workers to profound wage loss through executive-ordered foreign worker increases on top of existing record immigration levels. Yet, despite these extraordinary actions, the Administration will casually assert that is has merely modernized, clarified, improved, streamlined, and updated immigration rules. Thus, at any point during the 6-year life of TPA, the Administration could send Congress a trade deal—or issue an executive action subsequent to a trade deal as part of its implementation—that increased foreign worker entry into the U.S., all while claiming it has never changed immigration law.
1. Consolidation Of Power In The Executive Branch. TPA eliminates Congress’ ability to amend or debate trade implementing legislation and guarantees an up-or-down vote on a far-reaching international agreement before that agreement has received any public review. Not only will Congress have given up the 67-vote threshold for a treaty and the 60-vote threshold for important legislation, but will have even given up the opportunity for amendment and the committee review process that both ensure member participation. Crucially, this applies not only to the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) but all international trade agreements during the life of the TPA. There is no real check on the expiration of fast-track authority: if Congress does not affirmatively refuse to reauthorize TPA at the end of the defined authorization (2018), the authority is automatically renewed for an additional three years so long as the President requests the extension. And if a trade deal (not just TPP but any trade deal) is submitted to Congress that members believe does not fulfill, or that directly violates, the TPA recommendations—or any laws of the United States—it is exceptionally difficult for lawmakers to seek legislative redress or remove it from the fast track, as the exit ramp is under the exclusive control of the revenue and Rules committees
I might be joining you. Soon. I made a promise to myself long ago that I would post here only so long as I could both be honest and so long as I could agree with the principles of the site. Having some problems with that of late.
In any case, if I don’t catch you before you leave or ride the lightning, it has been an honor.
Likewise! Too bad it comes to this but such is life. Some people are fine with liberalism. Sucks to be them.
“I ran for State House in New Mexico in 2000. I lost, which is probably for the best.”
That’s good. I’m glad you gave it a shot, though.
There is no way I would be elected given my views. And I’m just no good as a liar.
Well, that’s depressing. And convenient for any politicians running in 2016: they can flap their traps all they want about amnesty and securing our borders, content in the knowledge that it doesn’t matter and that the borders will be open wide by virtue of this.
Caesar sure does have a way of lining his own nest, doesn’t he?
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