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Police now say a SWAT team, not a single traffic cop, killed the gunmen at Muhammad cartoon event
WaPo ^ | Mark Berman

Posted on 05/12/2015 4:33:07 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

On Monday, Mitch Bates, the Garland police chief, clarified details of this shootout between the gunmen and five of his force’s officers.

Bates said that the officer and the security guard who were confronted by the armed gunmen were not in a police car, as was initially believed, but were standing by it when the gunmen drove up to a barricade and got out of their car.

In addition, Bates said that the Garland police officer, who has not been identified, shot the gunmen and wounded, rather than killed, both of them. Four SWAT members armed with assault rifles and pistols came over within seconds, Bates said, and after dozens of rounds were fired from police and the suspected shooters, both gunmen had been killed.

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To: circlecity
Perhaps to protect the officer who killed them from retaliation?

That was my first thought. SWAT is a bit more anonymous.

21 posted on 05/12/2015 5:01:56 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: RoosterRedux

Just yesterday I told my wife there was more to this story. I thought a sniper well positioned took them out.


22 posted on 05/12/2015 5:01:58 AM PDT by 11th Commandment ("THOSE WHO TIRE LOSE")
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To: George from New England

Credit....

Can you imagine the thinking of bureaucrat swat commander having troops on site and a single officer does the SWAT job? If one guy can do the job, the SWAT funds will dry up. The money will disappear.


23 posted on 05/12/2015 5:04:16 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: G Larry

Seems to me tgere were photos. And not of a swat team. Not that I care


24 posted on 05/12/2015 5:04:36 AM PDT by stanne
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To: sport

It also stands to reason that swat was involved since the perps were wearing body armor. The initial shots by the patrolman put the shooters down but not dead due to the armor, the follow up more time by swat with rifles to finish the job.


25 posted on 05/12/2015 5:04:53 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: bert

If I shot some muslims I’d be happy to give a local SWAT team credit. In fact I think I’d actively pursue that kind of cover.

Also, I am glad the SWAT team wants credit for this. It’s not too far-fetched to imagine them (in Obama’s America) to be on the other side.

So I say, three cheers for the SWAT team, no matter who did the shooting.


26 posted on 05/12/2015 5:06:28 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: G Larry

Additionally, review the photo of the chalk outlines. Bleed-out stains were both from the head.

I prefer my traffic-cop to have a marksman honor with his service pistol.


27 posted on 05/12/2015 5:06:56 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: G Larry
The key problem I have with this story is the AUDIO only revealed 3 or 4 shots, NOT 12

Shots could have happened before the audio started.

28 posted on 05/12/2015 5:10:45 AM PDT by McGruff (What did Hillary know and when did she know it?)
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To: stanne

I saw live video immediately after and saw 2 SWAT-looking guys. I thought at the time that they took the jihadists out.


29 posted on 05/12/2015 5:14:52 AM PDT by jch10 (Obama, the first Muslim in Chief.)
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To: circlecity

Excellent thought, cc. Protection of him and his family would definitely be a concern. SWAT is sort of anonymous IMHO.


30 posted on 05/12/2015 5:15:57 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: RoosterRedux

dead = good. bye bye bad little muslims.


31 posted on 05/12/2015 5:17:22 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: RoosterRedux
It's not so much what you don't know that will get you into trouble, it's what you know that ain't so.

Or, if you believe anything a government official or big company tells you these days, you're an idiot.

32 posted on 05/12/2015 5:17:41 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Did the police bomb squad intentionally explode the back of the car? I’ve seen the pics but no explanation in captions.


33 posted on 05/12/2015 5:25:19 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: Delta 21
Kinda overkill

How inconsiderate! There goes the media circus trial.

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It was the security guard who engaged the Jihadists. The sounds of those shots alerted the nearby SWAT.

The security guard is still the hero for being aware enough to recognize something evil was about to transpire.
34 posted on 05/12/2015 5:34:48 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: RoosterRedux

How they got to hell is no concern of mine.


35 posted on 05/12/2015 5:40:33 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: RoosterRedux

The original story made it look like it was possible for an armed individual to protect himself and others when we all know that it takes an armored truck full of soldier cops armed with German made submachineguns to get a cat out of a tree.


36 posted on 05/12/2015 5:41:05 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: George from New England

Which lie is the truth?


37 posted on 05/12/2015 5:43:48 AM PDT by glyptol
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To: George from New England

Watch the spin, indeed...the Obama Justice Department will turn this into an act of police brutality, mark my words. SWAT reinforcement of the officer on the scene will be depicted as an “execution” of gunmen who were already down.

Something sounds a little fishy about this “new” narrative. A blogger named Robert Owens, who is very knowledgeable about firearms and police tactics, has done an interesting analysis of the engagement. He notes the “pattern” of ejected shells from the first officer’s Glock, in relation to the position of the gunmen. The evidence markers appear consistent with a single police officer, firing a limited number of shots, and taking out both jihadis. If SWAT was on the scene, there would be dozens of markers for the rounds fired by their weapons.

And here’s the biggest unanswered question of all: the FBI had been tracking one of these guys for almost a decade, recorded 1,500 hours of conversation with him through an informant and even built a criminal case against him (which was gutted by a Obama-appointed federal judge). The bureau knows he’s enroute to the Dallas area and may target the event in Garland. Yet, there is no indication the FBI dispatched agents to try to intercept the jihadis, or personally brief the local police on the threat. Instead, they send out a bulletin, which apparently wasn’t received by the Garland PD.

The recently-appointed SAIC of the Dallas field office (Thomas Class) has spent much of his career in counter-terrorism operations. But in his first big terrorist-related challenge since arriving in Dallas, he expends minimum effort in the face of a known threat. Is SAIC Class incompetent, or was he told to “back off” from a more intensive effort to find and apprehend the terrorists?


38 posted on 05/12/2015 5:45:15 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: circlecity
Perhaps to protect the officer who killed them from retaliation?

This is my interpretation, too. A cover story for the benefit of the officer's safety.

39 posted on 05/12/2015 5:48:50 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: George from New England

I didn’t believe the tale for a minute. Two guys with AK’s and body armor? A 9mm or .40 would need a crack shot to take them out.


40 posted on 05/12/2015 5:52:26 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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