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To: Romulus
I am the one arguing for an understanding of marriage that's life-long, fruitful, and heterosexual.

I'm not arguing with you on that, and you know it. You argued that, "Rush’s disordered view of marriage is well within the American mainstream, which makes it inevitable that this country will not — cannot — see anything wrong with same sex marriage.

This is where you take a liberal bent, you know well that this holds true ONLY in a minority of states that are liberal. The majority of states do NOT approve of same sex marriage - it is only passing by judicial fiat in any conservative state. If the majority of states approved of same sex marriage, then the people of those states would have passed legislation to make it so.

Your position that truth cannot come from a hypocrite is also a liberal position. We are all with shortcomings and no one can speak truth without admitting they have faults of their own. Therefore, taking the position that a hypocrite cannot speak the truth is a red herring in the argument for the truth; a typical liberal ploy.

Your lack of faith in the American public only serves the cause of liberalism. Grow a spine and fight for what the truth is and what is right instead of ragging on the US.

47 posted on 05/17/2015 10:48:09 AM PDT by celmak
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To: celmak

You really are not getting it. My problem isn’t that Rush is a hypocrite; it’s that — like most of America — he can’t recognize marriage when he sees it. Most of America accepts that marriage is for the satisfaction of the principals, to the exclusion of anything else. If it’s intentionally childless, it’s still marriage (to those folks). If it ceases to be mutually satisfying, it isn’t marriage (to those folks). In short, we have bought a spurious, romantic definition of marriage as an intensely private, relational affair between two persons. That the law should take notice of such relationships at all is merely a survival from the now-forgotten time when decent people did not use contraception or have recourse to abortionists, and divorce was for movie stars and disgusting people like that. But now everything I’ve decried is mainstream and Perfectly All Right. The broad culture in this country has happily redefined marriage to the point where it can find no reason in its impoverished understanding that such a thing should be denied to two people of the same sex.

My lack of faith in the American public is founded in the sorry truth that America has liberalism in its DNA, so that what’s playing out now before our horrified eyes seems perfectly fine to almost all. Trust me; your great grandchildren will never understand what the fuss was all about. They will be sure you were a terrible bigot.


48 posted on 05/18/2015 2:49:02 PM PDT by Romulus
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