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My Advice for the Next Time You're Asked to Bake a Gay Wedding Cake
Rushlimbaugh.com ^ | 5-11-2015 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 05/11/2015 11:31:21 AM PDT by servo1969

RUSH: There are rolling themes on this program. There are umbrella items under which fall a number of, oh, stories and sub-ideas, sub-topics, if you will. One of the themes of this program for its duration since we started, and actually predating this program going back to when I was in Sacramento, has been that the American left and the Democrat Party are engaged in an escalating -- and it has been escalating year after year after year -- attack on the institutions and traditions that have defined and made American greatness. Not just political institutions, but social institutions and traditions and cultural institutions and traditions.

And it's not stopped. And every so often there is a new line of attack. Some of the items that are attacked and assaulted are huge, like marriage. Marriage is an institution and tradition that has been in the crosshairs of the American left for as long as they have had a hatred of religion. They have made repeated, consistent efforts to undermine the tradition of marriage, and they've succeeded. They're well on their way to rendering the whole point of marriage new, different, and meaningless as it relates to the primary reason it even came into existence.

There are many things like this that the left is -- religion, as a giant topic and things that come underneath this, such as gay marriage...speaking of, I got an idea. I thought of something over the weekend, because the left is not through promoting gay marriage. Now, what has happened is that the resistance to gay rights and gay marriage is practically gone, so they've had to come up with a new substitute for it in order to keep the protest meme or narrative alive. And that has resulted in now a major push for equality and fairness and justice for lesbians, gays, and transgenders and bisexual people.

Since gay marriage is a fait accompli, no matter what the Supreme Court says, it's a fait accompli, up next, transgenders. They will be the next aggrieved victimhood or group of victims that will require attention, and the majority will need to be attacked as discriminatory and mean in order to pave the way for the normalcy of the transgendered status of human beings. That's just a little aside. And, in fact, we've already seen this.

But here is an idea I've got because they're not through. I mean, they never give up. To them, nothing is ever mission accomplished, because there's always gonna be some holdouts. There's always gonna be some people that oppose normalizing gay rights and agreeing to the concept of gay marriage and redefining it. There's always gonna be holdouts. There will always be religious people that own businesses that will refuse to serve or do business with people promoting activity that violate someone's religious practices. So to date we've had gay activist groups target bakeries and photography stores and similar types of things in order to prove discrimination, to show a bias and to beat down opposition.

Well, one of the things we've learned recently, and frankly I'm pleasantly surprised by this, that so many people on the left have agreed with me. We go out of our way to not offend Muslims, and we chastise anybody who does anything along the lines of, say, drawing cartoon characters of the prophet Mohammed, right? We don't permit that. We frown on that, and we condemn anybody that does that, because, why? Well, there's no need to provoke millions and millions of Islamic people, Muslims who are not terrorists. Why do it, and anybody who engages in a cartoon rendering of the prophet Mohammed is chastised and ripped to shreds and criticized because we dare not offend our Muslim brothers and sisters.

I pointed out the other day, well, then should we maybe stop flouting and flaunting gay marriage, because gay marriage is really disapproved in Islam. Gay marriage, homosexual behavior is not tolerated, it is not permitted, and it is punished severely when it is caught, when it's spied. And yet in American media all over the place we are celebrating gay marriage, we are flaunting gay marriage, and I ask, does this not also offend Muslims?

Where do we draw the line, I asked poignantly, in what aspects of Islam we will respect and others we will ignore. When it comes to pictures of the cartoon drawings of the prophet, we will absolutely obey the demands of militant Islam and we will not only refrain from drawing cartoons, we will condemn and seek to destroy anybody who does. But MSNBC, CNN, TIME magazine, the New York Times can readily, happily promote gay marriage and gay rights all day long, and the Muslims are supposed shut up about it?

Why, on the one hand, do we respect their wishes when it comes to cartoon renderings of the prophet Mohammed and ignore their wishes and ignore what they claim upsets them and angers them when it comes to gay marriage? Therefore I have an idea. I know that many of you out there run businesses that if a gay couple, a married gay couple came in and asked for your service, you would deny it on the basis that you disapprove, your religion does not sanction the approval of gay marriage.

My idea for you is quite simple. Don't use that as the excuse anymore. Let's say that you own the ABC wedding cake bakery. The only thing you do is you bake wedding cakes. And as such, militant gay activists target your bakery. They're gonna take you out, they're gonna take you down, they're gonna walk in there, they're gonna tell you they're gonna get married, and of all the bakeries in the world, yours has been recommended to them because that's all you do, therefore you must be better than anybody else at baking wedding cakes.

Instead of telling the gay couple that you refuse to bake the cake for their wedding because you disapprove of homosexuality, you should now say you are not going to bake a cake for the gay wedding because you fear Muslim backlash. Or, due to your respect of Islam, you cannot bake a cake for a gay wedding. See how that flies. Since the left is agreeing, a bunch of people on the left have gone on TV, "I hate to say this, you know, Limbaugh's got a point. We do flaunt gay marriage at 'em, wow. Wow. That's a good point. I mean, we readily agree not to do the thing with the prophet and the pictures and the cartoons, but gay marriage, yeah, we're kind of in their face on that."

Well, just make a note. Any of you small business owners who think you're gonna get a visit from a gay couple asking you for your product or service at a gay wedding just say, "Nah, nah, nah, we refuse because of our respect of Islam. We can't." Don't say anything about your religion. Don't say anything about it's your religion that prevents you from doing it. Say it's Islam. You respect Islam or you're afraid of Muslim backlash. See how that flies. It's just an idea. Hope it works.


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To: Durus

It is a matter of fact that marriage and the family have been around longer than any human law.

There is something called natural law. Philosophers, including philosophers of law, have heard of it. It is not necessary that every marriage be fertile; it is enough to observe that man and woman are ordered to each other, that the union of man and woman is ordered to childbearing, and that childbearing among human beings is ordered to a stable family in which man and woman remain together for the good of the child. This is how human life was passed on before there was any such thing as law. Without this observance of natural law — of man attracted to woman, of their having sexual union and subsequently remaining together as a domestic unit — the human species could not have survived. Comments about old age and are irrelevant, as the parents still need each other in old age after the children are on their own, and inter-generational bonds ensure that the elderly are not discarded like yesterday’s trash. Comments about infertility are irrelevant. Infertility is a disorder, in the same way that a medical disorder that causes blindness does not somehow cause the eye to be ordered not to sight but to walking or digestion. Man and woman are ordered to each other even if they can’t make babies together: in both body and mind they fit together and complete each other.

Infertility deliberately chosen through the self-mutilation of chemical “castration” or otherwise is an abuse of nature. That is why it’s wrong for Obamacare to cover contraception: because human fertility is a sign of good health, not a disease needing to be cured.

Marriage’s definition argued from natural law, and the facts of our existence as evidence of a supernatural act of creation outside the competence of natural science to explain, are obvious to any reasonable person willing to egage in systematic thought.


41 posted on 05/12/2015 1:32:38 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus; Durus; marktwain
The main thing is mutual attraction and sexual satisfaction. Those are the basis of the argument for gay marriage.

Rush’s disordered view of marriage is well within the American mainstream

Uh, no Romulus; you are wrong. Rush's view, and the view that is still of most American's, is the classical view of marriage - that of one woman and one man in a monogamous arrangement. the classical definition has been the definition for centuries; and that is why homosexual marriage has and always will be wrong.

42 posted on 05/13/2015 10:32:04 AM PDT by celmak
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To: celmak

What most Americans believe about marriage is irrelevant. Unless you want to pretend marriage is an American invention.

The classic definition of marriage is that it’s for life — which right there disqualifies Rush, both as commentator and personally.

You’re out of your depth. Go back to the kiddie end of the pool.


43 posted on 05/13/2015 6:49:44 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
What most Americans believe about marriage is irrelevant. Unless you want to pretend marriage is an American invention.

Then why bring up what the "American mainstream" thinks as you did? This statement only proves your opinion is irrelevant; and hypocritical.

The classic definition of marriage is that it’s for life — which right there disqualifies Rush, both as commentator and personally.

You’re out of your depth. Go back to the kiddie end of the pool.

It does not disqualify him stating the truth; the truth is the truth - even if that person is being hypocritical. Unfortunately, you are the kiddie who hides from the truth at the wrong end of the pool - you are under water and don't know it. Crawl along the bottom of the pool your drowning in and find a liberal rag to read; it' obiously more to you line of thinking. Good luck!

44 posted on 05/14/2015 8:41:30 PM PDT by celmak
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To: servo1969
Because the faith of Muslims matter, and yours doesn't.

The hypocrisy of the Left never fails to stun me.

45 posted on 05/14/2015 8:49:29 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: celmak
Then why bring up what the "American mainstream" thinks as you did?

Because it has warped American understanding of marriage and thus had a bearing on the public conversation and legal developments.

find a liberal rag to read

I am the one arguing for an understanding of marriage that's life-long, fruitful, and heterosexual. This is real marriage, God-given, revealed in nature, and honored by the Judeo-Christian tradition. You do realize that you're the liberal in this conversation?

46 posted on 05/15/2015 6:55:10 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: Romulus
I am the one arguing for an understanding of marriage that's life-long, fruitful, and heterosexual.

I'm not arguing with you on that, and you know it. You argued that, "Rush’s disordered view of marriage is well within the American mainstream, which makes it inevitable that this country will not — cannot — see anything wrong with same sex marriage.

This is where you take a liberal bent, you know well that this holds true ONLY in a minority of states that are liberal. The majority of states do NOT approve of same sex marriage - it is only passing by judicial fiat in any conservative state. If the majority of states approved of same sex marriage, then the people of those states would have passed legislation to make it so.

Your position that truth cannot come from a hypocrite is also a liberal position. We are all with shortcomings and no one can speak truth without admitting they have faults of their own. Therefore, taking the position that a hypocrite cannot speak the truth is a red herring in the argument for the truth; a typical liberal ploy.

Your lack of faith in the American public only serves the cause of liberalism. Grow a spine and fight for what the truth is and what is right instead of ragging on the US.

47 posted on 05/17/2015 10:48:09 AM PDT by celmak
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To: celmak

You really are not getting it. My problem isn’t that Rush is a hypocrite; it’s that — like most of America — he can’t recognize marriage when he sees it. Most of America accepts that marriage is for the satisfaction of the principals, to the exclusion of anything else. If it’s intentionally childless, it’s still marriage (to those folks). If it ceases to be mutually satisfying, it isn’t marriage (to those folks). In short, we have bought a spurious, romantic definition of marriage as an intensely private, relational affair between two persons. That the law should take notice of such relationships at all is merely a survival from the now-forgotten time when decent people did not use contraception or have recourse to abortionists, and divorce was for movie stars and disgusting people like that. But now everything I’ve decried is mainstream and Perfectly All Right. The broad culture in this country has happily redefined marriage to the point where it can find no reason in its impoverished understanding that such a thing should be denied to two people of the same sex.

My lack of faith in the American public is founded in the sorry truth that America has liberalism in its DNA, so that what’s playing out now before our horrified eyes seems perfectly fine to almost all. Trust me; your great grandchildren will never understand what the fuss was all about. They will be sure you were a terrible bigot.


48 posted on 05/18/2015 2:49:02 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: servo1969

anybody got the rainbow gun cartoon to the baker’s head


49 posted on 07/03/2015 6:25:50 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (defund Obama care and amnesty. Impeach for Benghazi and IRS and fast and furious.)
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