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Plants encouraged as CO2 levels reach 400 ppm
Watts Up With That? ^ | May 9, 2015 | By Dr. Tim Ball

Posted on 05/10/2015 9:48:52 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reports that global monthly CO2 levels reached 400 ppm. They present this as threatening news, but it is good news for plants and animals. I was involved in a brief to the US Supreme Court opposing the EPA actions on CO2. I proposed we seek Power of Attorney (POA) for the plants. We would vote on behalf of the plants against any attempts to reduce atmospheric CO2 from the current claimed 400 ppm and for any increase, at least to a level of 1200 ppm.

Seeking POA sounds like an environmental stunt for the Sierra Club, or all those who claim to care about plants and animals. Why aren’t they doing it? Why aren’t they proclaiming the good news for the plants and animals they say they care about? The answer is because the facts they have selected for their political agenda on the environment and climate puts them in a completely contradictory position. They know CO2 is critical for plant growth, but only promote planting more trees to reduce atmospheric levels because they have chosen to label CO2 a pollutant. It doesn’t occur to them that increasing the CO2 level enhances plant growth. It creates a moral and philosophical conflict, as they want plants to succeed, but want to reduce the input that makes them successful. They can’t see the forest for the trees. . .

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TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: co2; epa; plants

1 posted on 05/10/2015 9:48:52 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee
I was involved in a brief to the US Supreme Court opposing the EPA actions on CO2. I proposed we seek Power of Attorney (POA) for the plants. We would vote on behalf of the plants against any attempts to reduce atmospheric CO2 from the current claimed 400 ppm and for any increase, at least to a level of 1200 ppm.

Sounds silly, but the only way to beat the Left is to use their own tactics against them.

2 posted on 05/10/2015 9:52:52 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islamophobia. A word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons. -- Andrew Cummins)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Plants deserve representation.

They’re more intelligent than many beings in Washington.


3 posted on 05/10/2015 9:55:20 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

4 posted on 05/10/2015 9:58:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: MV=PY

EPA is vigorously opposed to all that plants require to survive, specifically, humans burning wood.


5 posted on 05/10/2015 10:00:02 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

400 ppm seems a bit low.


6 posted on 05/10/2015 10:06:20 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: MV=PY

“Give me minerals, or give me death!”


7 posted on 05/10/2015 10:24:17 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Brad from Tennessee

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/19197-icelands-volcanic-pollution-dwarfs-all-of-europes-human-emissions


8 posted on 05/10/2015 10:25:58 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

So 0.0004% CO2 is going to doom the planet?


9 posted on 05/10/2015 10:26:43 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

That’d be .04% for anyone who doesn’t want to do the division. That’s right, four hundredths of a single percent. These people are insane.


10 posted on 05/10/2015 10:31:56 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Ranging from 310ppm (1958) to 405ppm (2014), it's been based on the Keeling Curve, taking measurements in Hawaii, California and Arizona.
11 posted on 05/10/2015 10:39:26 AM PDT by Carriage Hill ( Some days you're the windshield, and some days you're just the bug.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

The trees in the pine forest where I live and I have regular conversations. They tell me they are thrilled that the CO2 is rising. Much as we humans would be thrilled if the oxygen level increased.


12 posted on 05/10/2015 10:47:03 AM PDT by upchuck (The current Federal Government is what the Founding Fathers tried to prevent. WAKE UP!! Amendment V)
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To: Billthedrill
These people are insane.

No, they are dishonest.

13 posted on 05/10/2015 10:48:55 AM PDT by stboz
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Most plants will actually do just fine at those levels, in fact CO2 is the limiting factor for photosynthesis.


14 posted on 05/10/2015 10:59:12 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: onedoug
"“Give me minerals, or give me death!”"

LOL! Ok...

"One if by land, two if by tree!"

15 posted on 05/10/2015 11:00:35 AM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Billthedrill

I am not a health expert, but CO2 alone at those levels wouldn’t be that harmful to humans. Plants are limited in photosynthesis by CO2 as well.


16 posted on 05/10/2015 11:00:51 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Morpheus2009
"CO2 is the limiting factor for photosynthesis"

That doesn't make sense. The fact that CO2 levels are rising means there is excess CO2 above what plants can utilize.

Obviously during fall and winter the plants stop/slow photosynthesizing, but these latest numbers are during the spring growing spurt, when plants are at highest metabolism, when meristematic growth is highest.

Crunching the numbers based on total fossil fuel used, they know roughly how much extra is being used by plants, how much is being absorbed by the oceans, how much is accumulating in the atmosphere, but that doesn't add up to the total amount, so they don't know where it is all going.

Apparently, the OCO 2 satellite is expected find the missing carbon

17 posted on 05/10/2015 11:43:35 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: MV=PY
Cut down old trees and replace them with young trees which require more co2. After a tree reaches a certain size its metabolic rate slows down.
18 posted on 05/10/2015 12:00:53 PM PDT by Do the math (Doug)
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To: Morpheus2009

Amazing, considering how much substance is derived from that small percentage.


19 posted on 05/10/2015 1:42:35 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Well. Maybe if they plant enough trees the oxygen level can increase to the point that dinosaurs could live again to eat all the leftists who’d come out to pet them ...


20 posted on 05/10/2015 2:44:09 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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