Is the Clinton mess already swept under the rug?
Posted on 05/10/2015 9:18:45 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
Peter Boyles interviews Trevor Loudon.
Oh, I just realized I’m dealing with the King of Data Dumps again.
And, as always, the Data Dump comes with absolutely no sense of what is credible or rational.
The fact that ten, or twenty, or thirty corrupt public officials declare that Obama’s “birth certificate” is genuine doesn’t change the fact that the typefaces of SIX DIFFERENT TYPEWRITERS appear on the “birth certificate.”
Tell me again how nurses ALWAYS run around to six different typewriters when filling out birth certificates.
Is the Clinton mess already swept under the rug?
His mother was a USA citizen. Is your only hope of a case that Obama was not her child? There is nowhere to go with this. He’s legal but his actions have not been. If the Democrats put up with treasons and the Republicans feel or are helpless, then your energy could go to try and change these real issues instead IMO.
Stanley Ann was not yet 19 when Hussein was supposedly born.
The law at the time was that a mother could transmit citizenship to her child only if she had lived five years in the U.S. after her 14th birthday. She had not.
Therefore, if Hussein was not born on U.S. soil, he was not a U.S. citizen at birth.
Regardless of this, he WAS a British Subject at birth. The White House website says so.
Since there is no evidence he was born on U.S. soil, there is no evidence he was a U.S. citizen at birth.
Since he became an Indonesian citizen, and has never been naturalized in the U.S., he is an illegal alien—no matter what his citizenship was at birth.
I think putting an illegal alien in the presidency is an even bigger scam than Julius and Ethel Clinton’s treason.
You are correct on all points...until the above.
Obama returned to the USA at the age of 10 and lived in country thereafter. If he was born an American citizen, he remained an American citizen. There was no need or him to be naturalized. Upon reaching his majority at the age of 18, he could've opted for Indonesian citizenship -- but, so far as we know, he did not.
We all know how amazingly successful “non-suckers” have been on this issue over the last seven years.
I’m sure that Barack Obama has greatly appreciated the unwitting assistance of birther dupes in getting him elected and reelected.
argumentum ad populum
Sad but probably true.
Judicial rulings contradict your beliefs.
Purpura & Moran v Obama: New Jersey Administrative Law Judge Jeff S. Masin: “No court, federal, state or administrative, has accepted the challengers’ position that Mr. Obama is not a “natural born citizen” due to the acknowledged fact that his father was born in Kenya and was a British citizen by virtue of the then applicable British Nationality Act. Nor has the fact that Obama had, or may have had, dual citizenship at the time of his birth and thereafter been held to deny him the status of natural born. It is unnecessary to reinvent the wheel here. … The petitioners’ legal position on this issue, however well intentioned, has no merit in law. Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a ‘natural born citizen’ regardless of the status of his father.” April 10, 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/88936737/2012-04-10-NJ-Purpura-Moran-v-Obama-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin-Apuzzo
I have never argued that Obama is not a natural born citizen because he was a British Subject at birth.
The only argument I have ever made against his being a Natural Born Citizen is that he was not a U.S. citizen at birth.
As you will notice, in the quotation you posted, Obama’s birth in Hawaii is accepted ONLY for the sake of argument. It is not asserted as a fact.
And, of course, there is no EVIDENCE that Obama was born in Hawaii, there are only assertions to that effect by various people.
Once again, a data dump that is completely beside the point.
You do not have any copies of mama Stanley Ann’s divorce from the Kenyan? You do not have the info from documents of mama Stanly Ann’s return to Seattle and school? You do not have the reports on Loretta Fuddy, the Hawaiian records keeper, dying in a questionable plane crash off the island of Molokai and who was a personal friend of mama Stanley Ann? You do not have the info that Obama has impounded some if not much of his life records? There seems to be much that you have no info about Obama including his public record when as a Senator from Illinois and his connection to various foreign interests, communists and Iranians. With all this known admittedly there is still much more to be known
HAHAHA! .....*Julius and Ethel Clinton* HAHAHA!
I love it!
I’m old enough to know who they were....I should live so long in the Bill&Hill case.
No Trier of Fact (judge, jury or state Elections Board) can confirm any person’s birth, not even their own.
Triers of Fact have to take the word of the birth certificate issuing authority and in this case, that is the Hawaii Department of Health. The standard used is that a birth certificate which bears an official stamp and an authorizing signature is presumed to be accurate in the absence of probative evidence to the contrary. That is known as a “Self-authenticating Document.” [Federal Rule of Evidence 902: Evidence that is Self-Authenticating].
I don’t care what any “trier of fact” has to say about it.
I’ve SEEN the “birth certificate.” It’s a crude fabrication.
Explain to me how it is that it bears the typefaces of six different typewriters.
First of, Who was his mother?
Second, If Stanley Ann was his mother, she was incapable of transmitting citizenship. Too young.
And I’m certain that no Trier of Fact cares what you have to say about it.
What you’ve seen is a digitally reproduced image of a birth certificate via looking at a computer screen.
Obama could have put a crayon drawing of his birth certificate done by his daughter Malia on the whitehouse.gov site, it wouldn’t have mattered in the least. The actual DATA relating to place of birth and date of birth, the Article II, Section 1 requirement has remained the same on every version of a Hawaii birth certificate.
The only version of a birth certificate that could ever matter is the original, hard copy version, which you have never seen. That document is in the office safe of the Hawaii Registrar of Vital Statistics and if anyone wants to inspect it, a judge’s order can release it or a congressional subpoena could do the trick.
“The state of Hawaii says that the President was born there. That’s good enough for me.”— Rep. John Boehner
July 27, 2009
STATEMENT BY HEALTH DIRECTOR CHIYOME FUKINO, M.D.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai’i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.”
Certified Letter of Verification, Hawaii state Registrar:
http://archive.azcentral.com/12news/Obama-Verification.pdf
Why do you persist with the data dumps?
THEY ARE ALL LIARS.
And PLEASE explain why the “birth certificate” bears the typefaces of SIX DIFFERENT TYPEWRITERS.
I think I’ve asked you for some explanation of the SIX DIFFERENT TYPEWRITERS at least a dozen times.
It would be a good idea (it would have been an even better idea seven years ago) to issue subpoenas and depose Hawaii Department of Health officials and ask them birth certificate related questions under oath with the threat of perjury and contempt hanging over their heads.
I’ve always been surprised that no one has ever done that.
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