[jumpingcholla34]

This is exactly the point I was mulling over this morning. (I'm a lawyer.) A cop may stop a person who is acting suspiciously (who is, for example, running away), even if probable cause to arrest that person is not apparent at that point; and a cop may arrest that person upon reasonable belief that a crime has been committed. The cops are not held to a standard of perfection, with jail time as the penalty for a mistake made in good faith; if they were held to such a standard, then cops would be crazy to arrest anybody, and the chaos in our streets would be even worse than it is.

This political prosecution stinks to high heaven. Looking at the Zimmerman, Wilson and now this case, the rule of law no longer applies in this country if a mob of the right pigmentation demands a sacrifice.

[2ndDivisionVet]

January 20, 2017.

[manc]

Thank you for some sense

[Theoria]

Question, what would the cops have arrested/detained Mr. Grey with if he didn't have a knife on him?

This was merely stop[chase down] and frisk?

[don-o]

Gleaned from interviews last night, Freddie was a snitch for the BPD. The anonymous officers interviewed on Fox said that he would put on a show for the street when they picked him up.

The alleged witness in the paddy wagon is also said to be a snitch.

EXPLOSIVE – The Curious Case Of Freddie Gray’s Paddy Wagon Companion – Baltimore Prosecutor, Marilyn Mosby, Manipulating The Media

[offduty]

This whole incident has to be looked at in the totality of the circumstances. Freddie was a known drug dealer, he was in an area of high drug trafficking; He, supposedly was exchanging something with another blk male when he made eye contact with the police Lt. and ran.

On face, this has already been decided by the Supreme Court as “reasonable suspicion” that there was illegal activity and a police officer may stop and investigate further.

Cops stop Freddie and he has already: 1. thrown away the drugs; or 2. eaten the drugs during the foot pursuit. (A Baltimore officer stated on Hannity that the prelim tox report showed heroin and marijuana in Freddie’s system)

Since there are no drugs, there is no drug offense. In all liklihood, Freddie, being a convicted felon was not allowed to carry either a spring-assisted knife or a gun.

Since he was charged under the City ordnance, it was probably the more restrictive of the two. So while the State’s Attorney was correct the knife may have been legal under State law, it was certainly illegal under City ordnance.

There is going to be a lot more “bad press” coming out for the Mayor and this Prosecutor. It could be a very long summer for the cops in Baltimore.

[conservativejoy]

Excellent post. Since there is no way these officers can get a fair trial in that jurisdiction, I pray that a change of venue will be granted. Given the amount of negative publicity and the blatant politicalization of the case, surely that will happen. At the very least, this prosecutor should be removed from the case.

[Gator113]

Well done.

[jocon307]

You did not address the duty to protect (or whatever we might call it) that attaches to cops once they arrest someone, handcuff them and just generally (and maybe for good reason I’m not saying otherwise) take away that person’s autonomy.