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To: Kazan; Pelham

Heroin does not make one agitated crazed as the original post said here which I replied to

It makes one euphoric and in higher doses pretty darn sleepy

It and all the opioids have a quite similar effect

The only agitated state from heroin is when a junkie can’t get it

Unlike you and the good doctor I have consumed heroin and most of the opioids in my long life ranging from medical care to recreational use

I am admittedly unfamiliar with the newer opioids and derivatives like OxyContin and Opana etc

The notion one takes heroin and goes banshee is poppycock

Many folks here have the heartfelt notions about what drugs do but they’ve never taken

Particularly about marijuana

This disinformation about opioids making one crazed is one reason many folks in serious pain have a hard time getting relief and have to jump through many hoops

Let me be really precise

Heroin or morphine or dilaudid in drug abuse dosage knock your ass out plain and simple unless you are extremely tolerant

If you are addicted you’ll be chasing a nod and trying to keep the sickness of withdrawal away

Withdrawal btw is crazed no question

Highly agitated

Here’s a public example

Rush whom I adore took by his admission very high levels of oxycodone.,,, for his neck..,,,20-30 times what I would take of Percocet 10mg

Did he seem crazed then to you

He didn’t to me.,,,in fact he was very witty and self deprecating even if high

Heroin is a 10 on pain management...used in England

Percocet is a solid 8 in moderate dosage

At his level it might as well have been heroin

That’s my personal experience

If you have any knowledge whereby you’ve taken the drug please share

Otherwise I’ll stick with my own firsthand knowledge

So sound off

I’ll let you have last word

It’s just easier

So try to stay on topic

No strawman and no ad hominum


67 posted on 05/02/2015 12:52:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (Dems hate western civilization and GOP are cowards...We are headed to a dark place)
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To: wardaddy
Heroin does not make one agitated crazed as the original post said here which I replied to It makes one euphoric and in higher doses pretty darn sleepy

That's not what sites providing information on the topic are saying.

81 posted on 05/02/2015 9:22:50 PM PDT by Kazan
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