Posted on 05/01/2015 7:37:37 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
Hannity talking with anonymous cop making breaking news. Cop says Freddy tested positive for drugs, including heroin, thus supporting story by cops and the other criminal in the van that Freddy was trying to cause harm to himself. The drugs would certainly make it easier for him to do it.
Cop also says they were explicitly told not to confront looters and robbers "direct from commander."
Given the criminal record he had already amassed, that he was known to the cops as a street dealer seems almost certain.
Alcohol is a depressant. Ever see anyone act aggressively or bizzarely on alcohol? After 30 years of seeing people on every drug out there, I can tell you that any drug can do anything depending on the tolerance, dose, and other factors present in the individual.
Shhhhhhhh don’t tell the 4 month old AG, this will not make her look good...(in my opinion).....per this info, they had probably cause to chase/arrest him
The OJ jury did their duty. The prosecutors were headline hunting fools just like Ms. Mosby. And when these brutal cops skate, the jurors will take the blame again.
“”They gave him a “rough ride” to knock him around a bit””............NO they did not! Per other man in van on CNN tonight (yes I know CNN yuck) the van right was “smooth”
“Sources said the medical examiner found Gray’s catastrophic injury was caused when he slammed into the back of the police transport van, apparently breaking his neck; a head injury he sustained matches a bolt in the back of the van.”
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Heroin is detectable for up to two days.
The drowsiness usually lasts about 3 to 6 hours. After that, withdrawal begins and so does agitation.
How long was Gray in the hospital before he died ?
This is our new reality. Competence and integrity have given way to policy by hate and corruption.
In a nation that could elect Obama, this has become the norm.
Maybe.
I don’t have much experience with GPS. I’m still driving a car from 2000 so, it’s pretty much a Fred Flinstone type vehicle.
I also don’t know much about police GPS, but I would guess that if it shows speeds in drive, it would also show speeds in reverse, but that’s just a guess on my part.
Thing is, it just doesn’t make much sense to me that the driver of this van would be like ok they just put this guy in my van, on my way to the clink, I’m going to put him in the paint can mixer.
That doesn’t seem like something a person who wants to keep their job would do.
But look, if they can prove that happened, I will consider that evidence for sure.
It just doesn’t make sense to me right now.
Except for the FACT that the other 'arrestee' who was in the back of the van on the other side of the partition told reporters that the ride was smooth and uneventful.
If not, then they should go free.
Let the chips fall where they may. I, for one, don't have some kind of prejudicial investment in the outcome of this case.
I think it's very likely there was some monkey business involved: the coroner ruled it a homicide, and it seems highly unlikely that the coroner would make that determination arbitrarily; it also seems that, if there were evidence the man tried to injure himself, then the coroner would at least have noted the possibility.
I also suspect that the prosecution must know something more than what we, the public, are aware of. Otherwise, why wouldn't it just be the driver who was charged? Why SIX officers?
In any event, it doesn't matter to me if the guy was drunk, swallowed some drugs, or was under the influence of them.
If the defense can demonstrate that this guy did, or tried to do, intentional harm to himself, they will create reasonable doubt in the jury's mind and these officers will be acquitted.
At which point the riots by the criminals will continue as scheduled.
But, regardless of what happened here, it should be clear to everybody that it wasn't an issue of the victim's race. I'm sure these cops are perfectly capable of severely injuring a white or Hispanic person as well, and just as liable to.
Aside from all that, it's my understanding that probable cause was not present, and, additionally, the knife wasn't illegal. The PD has a problem on their hands no matter how you slice it.
I've suggested a plausible scenario. The man was standing while facing towards the front. As the Van accelerated, he fell backward. The combined momentum of his fall with the van's acceleration might have been sufficient to break his neck, and was easily sufficient to dent his skull with that bolt.
Alternatively, he could have been facing rearward and either lunged forward or fell forward just as the van accelerated.
If you discount the implausible idea that someone did it to him on purpose, you have to consider how it might have possibly happened by accident. Based on what I have heard so far, these are the only plausible scenarios to explain the event.
The other passenger in the back of the van stated that the ride was smooth all the way to the hospital.
The rough ride scenario may be a common practice in Baltimore, but in this case it is just an internet rumor with no facts behind it.
It does have a GPS from what I understood, but I don’t know what that GPS shows.
As far as hitting the “back” goes, you could be right in that back refers to the whole back area of the van and not the back end of the van.
It’s difficult to interpret precise meanings using news reports.
That detail is just going to have to come out in evidence to the jurors I suppose.
There was a thread yesterday with pictures of the inside of a similar van, and there were no bolts that I could see.
There were rivets on the back door that could possibly leave a mark if one hit one with one’s forehead or something like that.
But I imagine, let’s say he hit his head on a rivet on the back door, there may be blood on that rivet or DNA of some sort that could confirm this is where his head contacted.
And with evidence of that nature, a forensic expert could describe how such an impact with that particular area of the vehicle could or could not result in his fatal injuries.
here is the full clip
19:53 Minutes
Exclusive: Baltimore Officer With Inside Info On The Investigation - Hannity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqNldpeLSYU
I rode in a police van once. Flat metal bench. No seatbelts. Smooth ride. Never once felt unsafe. Not a bruise or bump.
I rode in an ambulance last year. Securely strapped onto a comfortable gurney.
I thought I was gonna die. I’ve never been shaken that hard for that long.
I noticed that, and by the comments so did many others.
The only problem was that just as he was about to enter the back of the van, he stood up straight and unsupported by the cops.
I agree...with all of it.
The other prisoner that changed his story after the media released his name now says it was a “smooth ride”
‘When I got in the van, I didn’t hear nothing. It was a smooth ride. We went straight to the police station.’
‘All I heard was a little banging for about four seconds. I just heard little banging, just little banging.’
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