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Six Baltimore police officers face murder, other charges in death of black man
Reuters ^ | May 1, 2015 | Scott Malone and Ian Simpson

Posted on 05/01/2015 8:30:09 AM PDT by KeyLargo

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To: BJ1

Fathers will not be in the house with the welfare state being as it is. Why does a certain group of folks see having a child as a means of income as opposed to getting a job.


141 posted on 05/01/2015 1:50:36 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: edpc

You’re correct, and with GPS, the driver wouldn’t risk his career/job.

On another tack, here’s where the family can make some real money!

I foresee a lawsuit against the company that built/converted the van, if the bolt was the cause of death.


142 posted on 05/01/2015 1:57:23 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: BJ1
I think the correct response is to structure society so we don’t have so many lawless youths roaming the streets.

How do we do that? Government has become the parents of kids in cities... the government houses them, it feeds them... and it fails to punish them for their first 50 or so major crimes. Government tells them that religion is bad, it tells them that capitalism is bad, it gives them gold stars for failing.

143 posted on 05/01/2015 2:02:06 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Lumper20

>>>Fathers will not be in the house with the welfare state being as it is. Why does a certain group of folks see having a child as a means of income as opposed to getting a job.<<<

Suppose you were a woman without an education and saddled with two kids without a father. Factor in all the bennies you get on welfare and translate that into a job. How many women could have a lifestyle equivalent to welfare?

Not working pays more than working. Everyone says “for the children” while they lock mom into be dependent. Without entering the labor market how will her circumstances change? And how does that model of family life affect her children?

Well academic discussion here as I think we are both of like minds on this topic.


144 posted on 05/01/2015 2:12:31 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: Cementjungle

>>>Fathers will not be in the house with the welfare state being as it is. Why does a certain group of folks see having a child as a means of income as opposed to getting a job.<<<

Can’t any of the Great Society be rolled back? I’m all for letting parents be in charge of their kids. Is that such a minority viewpoint that it can’t win elections? Has anyone tried since Newt did welfare reform?


145 posted on 05/01/2015 2:16:04 PM PDT by BJ1
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To: Cementjungle

Sad and true. Obama has increased welfare to almost one trillion bucks a year. Since 1964 we have spent over 15 trillion on welfare. I recall when everyone worked in 1962-63 as I unloaded box cars in the hot VA sun with black men on summer construction jobs. I was the only white for a month.

http://www.heritage.org/research/commentary/2015/2/married-to-the-welfare-state


146 posted on 05/01/2015 2:16:31 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: BJ1

First, we have a morals problem with kids out of wedlock. Second, we have a welfare system that encourages a woman to make X amount and not any more.


147 posted on 05/01/2015 3:06:24 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: KeyLargo

Can you say “kangaroo court”????? It is amazing what affirmative action has done to this society.


148 posted on 05/01/2015 3:14:52 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: IWONDR

Have we gotten to 2015 without the liberals doing it so far, are have they already started doing it?


149 posted on 05/01/2015 4:07:51 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: FreeReign

Now you are lying, I said your trying to compare our years of riding school buses with riding in an empty police van with our hands cuffed behind us is silly.

You seem to be a little nuts and all wound up.


150 posted on 05/01/2015 4:09:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: chris37

Due process does matter. Agreed.

Evidence does matter. Agreed.

Innocent until guilty does matter. Agreed.

But do they only matter for police, or are they also supposed to matter for the guy who was arrested and died with a broken spine?

He’s not gonna get a trial. He’s in the ground. Did he deserve to die for a legal knife because he’d had priors?

Or do we only give the benefit of the doubt to those who wear a badge?

People who excuse and rationalize government oversteps are the scariest of all, wouldn’t you agree?


151 posted on 05/01/2015 5:19:33 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: KeyLargo

3 white 3 black ,, the driver was black.


152 posted on 05/01/2015 5:21:14 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (SEMPER FI!! - Monthly Donors Rock!!)
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To: JimRed

Though he was either born or reared in Tulsa, didn’t Moynihan claim to be of Hell’s Kitchen background?


153 posted on 05/01/2015 5:26:41 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: mountainbunny
You need to realize that the my post that you are responding to is to a person who has called for all 6 of these officers to be executed.

None of the charges leveled against the officers even carry the death penalty, and it can be argued at this time that the elements for a number of these charges do not apparently exist. Furthermore, the death penalty does not exist in Maryland.

Yet I am conversing with a person who is calling for their execution.

"People who excuse and rationalize government oversteps are the scariest of all, wouldn’t you agree?"

Yes, I would agree that such people are scary, However, that is not what I am doing if that is what you are implying.

I am asking that charges be proven by evidence, and I am asking that penalties fit convictions during a conversation with a person calling for the execution of these officers, when the evidence, charges, the general scenario and the location of the incident here do not warrant.

154 posted on 05/01/2015 5:38:29 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless)
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To: lavaroise

“And surprize surprise, the cop snitch Al Sharpton is asking for more Federalizing the police!”....

No surprise to me, why do you think Al, “The Weasel” Sharpton has been visiting the WH so many times? Federalizing the police is part of the destruction of American, odumbo’s plan. I will BET there will be more of the same all over this street rat infested country before this weekend is over.


155 posted on 05/02/2015 7:14:54 AM PDT by DaveA37
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