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UPDATE: Law enforcement sources say Freddie Gray suffered head injury in police transport van
WJLA ABC 7 ^ | 4/30/15 | Brad Bell

Posted on 04/30/2015 1:52:15 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

wait what facts won’t matter? That the police killed this guy by rough-riding him on the way to the station, not belting him into his seat as they are required to do? That matters a great deal to me.


21 posted on 04/30/2015 2:12:12 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: justa-hairyape

According to the other passenger, the ride was not rough or erratic. I think the guy was trying to injure himself and seriously over played his hand.

If I were making police policy, I think I might change the patrols so that only black officers patrolled and made arrests in black neighborhoods. It would be hard for anyone to make racism an issue with that policy in place.


22 posted on 04/30/2015 2:13:53 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: babble-on

“wait what facts won’t matter? That the police killed this guy by rough-riding him on the way to the station, not belting him into his seat as they are required to do? That matters a great deal to me.

The narrative is that the cops are racists who murdered the guy solely because he was black.

If instead it was negligent homicide or manslaughter instead of a racist murder, as the facts seem to suggest, it still won’t matter. The cops will still be guilty of racist murder according to many unthinking people.

Do you understand?


23 posted on 04/30/2015 2:16:58 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martinow)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
I think it's within reason that Freddie was given a rough ride and was thrown around inside the van. The cops already stated he was not buckled into his seat. If one is handcuffed behind the back how can you protect yourself?>
24 posted on 04/30/2015 2:17:39 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (No tagline today.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
The outgrowth of all this nonsense is scenes like this:
EMPTY!
25 posted on 04/30/2015 2:19:03 PM PDT by BigEdLB (They need to targelationt the 'Ministry of Virtue' which has nothing to do with virtue.)
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To: babble-on

There is no evidence that they he was given a rough ride. In fact, the other passenger said that the ride was not rough or erratic in any way.


26 posted on 04/30/2015 2:19:11 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
This is getting to be the pattern. The lsm reports days, even weeks of incorrect stories and then when the facts emerge the truth is overwhelmed by the dis-information. The A-hole in chief also consistently sides against the police despite the facts.

The "Hands up, don't shoot" BS is still the matra. All of the perps were little angels too.

27 posted on 04/30/2015 2:24:45 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: House Atreides

I’m donating plasma, and I laughed so hard at your post I almost disconnected the needle.


28 posted on 04/30/2015 2:24:54 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Latest black victims of white racist cops: Freddie Tawana Gray and Michael Brawley Brown**

** aka The Gentle Giant - someone who'd never hurt a flea .... well, he might consider slamming an Asian store clerk a third his weight into a counter, but certainly would never hurt a flea!

29 posted on 04/30/2015 2:26:08 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (Folks ask about my politics. I say: I dont belong to any organized political party. I'm a Republican)
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To: 4yearlurker; conservativejoy

See Post #26:

“There is no evidence that they he was given a rough ride. In fact, the other passenger said that the ride was not rough or erratic in any way.”


30 posted on 04/30/2015 2:27:15 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martinow)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
No evidence doesn't mean it didn't happen. How about a cracked skull for evidence? There is no evidence that the other guy in the back of the van wasn't paid to say what he said.
31 posted on 04/30/2015 2:40:27 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (No tagline today.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

I just heard on Fox News that another prisoner being transported in the same van has made a statement that Freddie Gray kept throwing himself against the wall(s) of the van, so much so that police stopped several times on the way to the district police facility. He is said to have entered the van on his own. It’s not clear whether he sustained any injury prior to entering the van, though that is certainly possible.


32 posted on 04/30/2015 2:40:46 PM PDT by Seeing More Clearly Now
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Is it possible he was trying to injure himself in order to sue for brutality later?

I only ask because of a “Person of Interest” story I saw on the TV. An insane guy banged his own head on a butcher table while in handcuffs, when the officer had walked to the end of the table to talk to someone. People came back in and saw what looked to be an injury at the hands of the officer.


33 posted on 04/30/2015 2:45:19 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: 4yearlurker

Well, since you weren’t there and neither was I, we have to rely on facts and testimony. Bummer, isn’t it?


34 posted on 04/30/2015 2:46:59 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martinow)
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To: 4yearlurker

I haven’t heard in any report that he had a cracked skull. The medical examiners report said that he had a fracture in his neck that was consistent with a bolt in the back of the van. That fracure was deemed to be the cause of death.

Where is the evidence that the other passenger was paid to say anything?


35 posted on 04/30/2015 2:57:17 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

If the medical examiners report is correct and the injury to the neck that caused his death is consistent with a bolt in the Back of the van, then the injury had to have been self inflicted. The police were not in the van when the back door was closed. The medical examiners report is consistent with the other passengers account that gray was banging himself around in the van. That passenger said he seemed to be trying to hurt himself.


36 posted on 04/30/2015 3:04:48 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: conservativejoy

I agree.


37 posted on 04/30/2015 3:09:37 PM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears ("There's always free cheese in a mousetrap." - Marine Col. Peter Martinow)
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To: shadeaud

I’ll be one of two people in America that does this weird thing: wait for the facts and, if applicable, a Grand Jury and Jury to sort it out.

It’s called the “Rule of Law.” I’ve noticed a lot of folks both in Baltimore and on this site seem to have forgotten the whole Due Process thing when they have a political point to make.


38 posted on 04/30/2015 3:28:51 PM PDT by cizinec (Liberty is the only political "party" that deserves our loyalty.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Well, harumph, he should have been chained up so he couldn’t bang his head. Police Brutality, that’s what it is. They should be prosecuted for not chaining up this animal.

Of course, if they had, …...


39 posted on 04/30/2015 3:38:08 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
has found no evidence that his fatal injuries were caused during the videotaped arrest and interaction with police officers

40 posted on 04/30/2015 4:03:31 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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