Posted on 04/29/2015 8:24:49 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Finally, an answer to the most important question of the 2016 election.
Kidding aside, though, this is a bit surprising.
The question of whether or not a candidate would attend the gay wedding of a loved one has become an increasingly common litmus test for candidates on the issue…
The poll showed 56 percent of Republicans would attend the gay wedding of a loved one if invited. That compares with 80 percent of Democrats and 70 percent of independents, who said they would go.
Overall, 68 percent of Americans would attend, the poll showed, while 19 percent would not and 13 percent were unsure…
Though a right-leaning, anti-marriage position may appeal to important conservative voters in states with early nominating contests such as Iowa and New Hampshire, that stand could hurt an eventual nominee in the general election, in which cross-party appeal and independents play a larger role.
Most polls show GOP support for legalizing gay marriage somewhere between 30 and 40 percent, so apparently there’s a chunk of 20 percent or so that would show up for a gay family member’s wedding even though they … don’t think it should be legally recognized. That’s an odd position but I think it may end up being the majority position of the Republican presidential field: Rubio, Rick Perry, and Jeb Bush all oppose legalizing SSM, last I checked, and all of them have said they’d attend a gay wedding if invited. (“Claro que si” said Jeb when asked yesterday in Puerto Rico.) In fact, Ted Cruz ducked the question when Hugh Hewitt put it to him instead of replying with a flat “no.” You can see why this stance might appeal to a socially conservative pol hoping to face the national electorate next November, though. Being anti-SSM but pro-attendance is a way in theory to show righties you’re on their side of the legal debate while showing swing voters you’re not the “hater” Democrats accuse you of being.
Surely these numbers shift, though, when you look specifically at Republican primary voters, right? It stands to reason that the GOPers most motivated to vote are more likely to be members of the base, which usually means they’re more conservative than Republicans generally. And as it turns out, the numbers do shift — but not as much as you might expect. Using Reuters’s nifty crosstabs tool to refine the data so that it shows only GOP primary voters, we find that 49 percent would attend versus just 35 percent who wouldn’t, suggesting that the Rubio/Bush/Perry position is a winner in the primaries too — at least if you’re competing for center-righties, as each of them is. Surprisingly, the numbers are even better among older (i.e. age 60 or over) Republicans, 56 percent of whom say they’d attend. Women are also noticeably more supportive of attending than men are, with just 51 percent of Republican men saying they’d attend versus 62 percent of Republican women. Among the broader population, 61 percent of men would attend versus 75 percent of women. Maybe that has less to do with women being more pro-gay than men than women being more pro-wedding? You tell me.
Exit question: Is the fact that this was an online poll, not a phone poll, significant?
These kinds of polls are very iffy. People never want to seem to be bigots etc. They don’t want the pollster to think badly of them so they many times give the answer that puts them in the best light. This is Poly Sci 105.
So does Hillary Clinton, when she’s paying them.
“What could have induced you to attend it? Was it curiosity?”
Attending a Gay Wedding is the ultimate Liberal Status symbol, right up there with stopping by to have an abortion on the way to adopt a baby from some East Bloc nation.
Oh look, Rubio’s gonna make Iran recognize Israel. How about getting the White House to openly state the name of the city with Israel's capitol?
They should drop the tax status.
Having the exemption makes the church subservient to the federal government.
My dad felt very strongly about his faith. It was very difficult for him to see two of his children marry outside of a Catholic ceremony. (I later entered into a sacramental marriage with the same guy.) But he went and in my case he did walk me down the aisle. I would be in the same boat. My SIL is struggling with the wedding of her son this summer - I expect it to be a hippy dippy good time rock and roll sort of event but at least it is to a woman. Oh well. So if another nephew who does run with that crowd but is not out decides to marry a boyfriend, I doubt I would be invited to the wedding (other side of the country) but I would probably go to any reception here in town. Hey, it’s a party. It’s with people I love. Why would I not go? Besides, the outfits would be fabulous.
I see your point. Churches are often split by trouble makers. There is one large church in my area that split because they leaders were split over which hymn books to use. It was over something silly like which musical symbol notes would be used. They actually split over something like that. It is what it is.
The churches can unify without being in the same building. There are church affiliated groups that research candidates before elections and state the preferred candidates (the one that agree with them on most moral issues.). There are printed copies available to attendees. It is very clear to those that attend our church where we stand politically.
They should drop the tax status.
Having the exemption makes the church subservient to the federal government.
The church probably wouldn’t show enough profit to have to pay taxes.
100% of polls are made as instructed.
See book “ How To Lie With Statistics”
By Darrell Huff
I’m Independent Baptist also, I thought that most Independent Baptist already don’t claim tax-exempt status for just that reason. I know that Lester Roloff and his ministries didn’t. They also don’t get involved in politics, the Moral Majority was evangelical, not fundamentalist.
Without ever attending one, and with no intention to ever do so, I imagined that that’s what most of them are about anyway, making a political statement and playing faggot games.
If you don’t want to go because you don’t believe in gay marriage, fine. But you will be dying on that little hill. The rest of your family will not think kindly of you. But you don’t care, probably.
Homosexuality is not the worst sin. We have to be careful not to rank sins by how yucky they are to us. Having sex with someone of your sex is much less of a sin than gossip, in the Bible, and you probably have been to the marriage of someone who gossips.
I could love my kid and not attend their satanic worship service either.
But I haven’t seen anyone trying to force others, in the political arena, to celebrate lying, adultery, gossip, etc.
How are you going to hide your disgust when the two lovebirds swap spit after being pronounced “married”?
And God Himself calls homosexuality (along with some other sins) an abomination. I’m not going to try to soft-pedal what God Himself says.
Bloomberg is a “Republican”.
...just sayin’.
Everyone likes Lester Roloff, but he was a bit of an iconoclast. Have you heard his famous sermon “The Mule Walked on”? There are very few IFB preachers who’d agree with that sermon, even when he preached it.
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=28101938551
what you should take away from this ‘poll’ is that they actually had to ask, in order to find out that not all Republicans are as EVIL(!!!!) as they think
I must be in the 44 percent that won’t. My family was sent an invitation to my cousins wedding to his boyfriend. They had the whole thing. We declined. My wife insisted we send a gift. I didn’t want to but I let it go.
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