Posted on 04/27/2015 7:35:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Edited on 04/27/2015 10:05:42 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Yes, KY GOP strikes out twice with Rand and Mitch, and they never seriously compete for governor.
“Vietnam” means a long drawn-out military venture that ends with no good result because of a lack of commitment.
Well, there was a time when everyone in FR supported Bush, and thought he was fighting for our country. There was even a time, during his first term in office, when he was thought to be conservative.
It did make a kind of sense to take on Iraq first before tackling the Saudis. Secure the oil first. But, as you say, that was evidently never Bush’s real intention.
I was also hoping that if we conquered Arabia, we could split the country in two: One country with the oil, the other with the Holy Cities. Leaving one of the richest countries in the world also basically in charge of Islam is not healthy for the rest of us.
But Bush proved to be a disappointment, as you say.
Re-litigating the Iraq war is for obsessives who want to claim some sort of retroactive Pyrrhic academic “I told you so” victory. This is 2016 not 2003.
That was never going to happen because this country never had a problem with radical Islam in the Middle East ... as long as those radical Muslims were investing heavily in U.S. political leaders.
“Dear George Bush, Saddam was our biggest enemy in the world, and you toppled him. In his place, you set up a Shiite government. It was made up of people we’d been hosting, as exiles, when Saddam was in power. So Iraq became our closest ally.
“Thank you George Bush!
Sincerely,
Iran”
Paul is right on this.
True.
I agree with that...the surge indicated the administration eventually did as well. Had enough troops gone in to begin with to be able to hold territory once it was taken from the terrorists rather than “moving on” and then allowing the terrorists to come back and retake prior territory when they were being repelled elsewhere, things would have stabilized years before and many of the problems in the aftermath would have never occurred.
That said, Rand Paul is blaming decisions made by Obama on Bush that have caused some of the problems he highlights that a Bush administration would have never made...certainly would have never allowed ISIS to march as long as it did entrenching in one city after another to where it is now a much more difficult task to remove them - should have been stopped in their tracks when they first started their march into Iraq.
So you’re glad we sent troops to fight Ebola?
It's even worse than that. If you were to go back to 2003 and conjure up a course of action in the Middle East that would have laid the foundation for Iranian supremacy in the region, you couldn't come up with a more effective strategy to accomplish this than what the U.S. actually did over there.
Yes, we should have irradiated Baghdad, the Tollibon, and the Soddies.
No, it means a long and massively bloody war in Vietnam, not a war of about 4500 dead in the Middle East.
Under Reagan, we were losing almost 5,000 men in 2 years, in peacetime.
Given how big a supporter I was at the time of taking out Saddam, I’m willing to admit I was wrong. Rand is right on this one.
Tell me that you agree that Paul was an idiot, don’t ignore the post.
Iraq got a new Shiite government under Bush — years before Obama came in. the new leaders, who replaced Saddam, were Shiites who’d been living in Iran in exile, when Saddam was in power. Iraq became an Iranian allly when these guys took over the government.
and all that happened when Bush was president.
We should be very competitive for governor this time around.
It's kind of pathetic that a Republican president in the 21st century will be remembered as a modern-day version of the last @sshole to go to the White House from Texas (Lyndon Johnson).
Agreed on all points. Leaving no troops behind was a disaster. Left them in Germany, Japan, Korea...
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