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BEN AFFLECK HAS ANOTHER NINE SLAVEHOLDER ANCESTORS FROM THROUGHOUT THE SOUTH (214 slaves total)
Big Government ^ | April 27, 2015

Posted on 04/27/2015 12:52:50 PM PDT by drewh

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To: drewh

I have seen documentation that either my 4th or 5th great-grandfather owned a couple of slaves (both had the first name “Thomas”.

My great-grandfather, however, lost everything near the beginning of the Great Depression and died in 1933.

I have 15 first cousins from this great-grandfather, and who knows how many 2nd cousins and 2nds once and twice removed.

So what would be my my monetary obligation to “repay” for the slave-holding sins of my forebears?

Or, will this be held forever as an unpaid debt of me and my progeny?

Just curious how the bill is calculated. . . .


41 posted on 04/27/2015 3:21:00 PM PDT by RatRipper (Obama has made me the slave of sluggards.)
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To: Verginius Rufus; Inyo-Mono; fieldmarshaldj; Impy
>> Anyone with white Southern ancestors probably has at least one slaveholder in the batch <<

I've consistently read its about 5% of modern-day white americans. The vast majority of white southerners in 1860 did NOT own any slaves, they simply couldn't afford them (a fact that the neo-confederate on this crowd uses to argue that slavery was not a major factor in the civil war, despite the fact that the southern GOVERNMENTS and political elite in the south were overwhelmingly pro-slavery and said so at the time).

Furthermore, of the people who did own slaves, most of them owned no more than 2-4 at best, as house servants. Slave owners with vast plantations and hundreds of slaves were probably about 10-20% of slave owners.

It was an elite class similar to today's billionaires. There are more billionaires in the US than anywhere else in the world. But that doesn't mean the average american is directly related to a billionaire.

But the situation is different with black americans -- most of them DO have at least one ancestor who was a slave. That's because the slavery business was a couple of elites buying and selling hundreds of people.

>> Some of my ancestors had slaves, but I most ashamed of my Great-Great-Grandfather who was a Democratic state rep in the 1860s. <<

Hmmm. Are you sure the RAT State Rep. ancestor wasn't the same person as the "slave owning ancestors"? It would make sense. ;-)

42 posted on 04/27/2015 3:40:50 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy
Hmmm. Are you sure the RAT State Rep. ancestor wasn't the same person as the "slave owning ancestors"? It would make sense. ;-)

Actually, yes, he was one, but I had few others that owned at most a couple of slaves. My Great-Grandfather was in a Confederate Cavalry unit but didn't own any slaves, he was too dirt poor.

43 posted on 04/27/2015 3:49:34 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: drewh

Get over it Afleck, I had an ancestor executed for murdering a king.


44 posted on 04/27/2015 4:11:12 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Barack Obama is not inarguably sane.)
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To: TigersEye

Massa Afleck please don’t whip me!!!!


45 posted on 04/27/2015 4:13:42 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: drewh

Just tells me his family has been full of rich bastards for generations. Poor folk did not own 200+ slaves.


46 posted on 04/27/2015 4:40:46 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: drewh

Children should not be held responsible for the sins of their parents.
Six generations down the line, there is nothing wrong except for those who hold the sins of the ancestors over someone’s head.


47 posted on 04/27/2015 5:10:46 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: drewh

I don’t like Afflek but as far as his having owned slaves, I suppose my couple times great Grand Father may well have hauled them across the water for them. Does that embarass me or make me ashamed? Nope!


48 posted on 04/27/2015 5:16:37 PM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: drewh

My grandpa owned slaves. He bought a plot of timber and while cruising it he discovered an old cemetery with nine slaves buried in it. He reported it to the courthouse then built a nice fence around it. It gave him a story to tell for the rest of his life.


49 posted on 04/27/2015 5:42:13 PM PDT by eartrumpet
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To: drewh

He should pay reparations by giving all his money and all future earnings to the descendants of his families slaves. Just sayin’. Mr. Affleck, meet your own petard.


50 posted on 04/27/2015 6:06:02 PM PDT by JewishRighter
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To: onedoug

ping


51 posted on 04/27/2015 6:33:28 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: BillyBoy
You are right that only a small proportion of the whites in the South owned slaves in 1860 and the planter elite was a small fraction of all the slaveholders, but each Southern white alive in 1860 probably had ancestors in the country at least 5 or 6 generations back. 6 generations back would be 64 ancestors in that generation, so there easily could be one or two who had owned a slave or two.

My father's family came to the US after the Civil War, and my mother's mother's grandparents were early 19th-century immmigrants to the North, so none of them owned any slaves.

On my mother's father's side I have a great-great-grandfather who served in a Union unit in Missouri, who had a great-grandfather who owned a few slaves at the time of his death almost 40 years before the Civil War. That man, my fifth great-grandfather, is one of 128 ancestors I have in that generation. His daughter from whom I am descended did not inherit any of her father's slaves. For that I am supposed to feel personally guilty because slavery existed in the US? Actually, I am proud of that ancestor because he fought for American independence in the Revolutionary War. One of his descendants (not a direct ancestor of mine) died in the Union army in 1864 and is buried in Arlington National Cemetery.

History is complex. It's only the agitators and community organizers who want to use it to pit people against each other--for their own gain.

52 posted on 04/27/2015 7:06:49 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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53 posted on 04/27/2015 8:23:14 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: BillyBoy; Inyo-Mono

Being a democrat state legislator in the 1860’s and owning slaves are about on a par for me. ;d

Being a democrat office holder TODAY is about 5 or 6 times as bad.


54 posted on 04/27/2015 8:45:12 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: drewh

I’m sure glad I’m not held accountable for what my great-great-great-grandfathers (who I know nothing about nor their names) may have done.

It’s hard enough being accountable for what I do myself. Everyday, I pray that I do the right thing and that God will be pleased despite my imperfections.

This is all silliness about Afleck’s ancestors (but deceitful of him to intentionally hide it).


55 posted on 04/27/2015 8:50:21 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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Huh? You’ve made mistakes, that your ancestors should not answer for? Good reasoning. Good sense.... Well, some folks like Benny Affleck- think you should, make reparations to slaves- his effin’ kin actually owned. Are you understanding, the true nature in question?


56 posted on 04/27/2015 9:12:51 PM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: drewh
Boy, Afleck has to hand over all his money and assets in the name of restitution. Since my family was in Europe until 1956, Afleck will have to pay for any restitution that may be assigned to me. ‘Cause I'm not paying since I have no standing.... ; )
57 posted on 04/27/2015 9:16:54 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: dennisw

“Y’all better watch my movies. All of ‘em!”


58 posted on 04/28/2015 5:18:23 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Bon mots

Looks like Ben Afleck owes Kunta Kinte some reparations


59 posted on 04/28/2015 12:00:32 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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