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Audi just created diesel fuel from air and water
Gizmag ^ | April 26, 2015 | Eric Mack

Posted on 04/27/2015 11:16:12 AM PDT by Hostage

Audi is making a new fuel for internal combustion engines that has the potential to make a big dent when it comes to climate change – that's because the synthetic diesel is made from just water and carbon dioxide.

The company's pilot plant, which is operated by German startup Sunfire in Dresden, produced its first batches of the "e-diesel" this month. German Federal Minister of Education and Research Johanna Wanka put a few liters of the fuel in her work car, an Audi A8, to commemorate the accomplishment.

The base fuel is referred to as "blue crude," and begins by taking electricity from renewable sources like wind, solar or hydropower and using it to produce hydrogen from water via reversible electrolysis. The hydrogen is then mixed with CO2 that has been converted into CO in two chemical processes and the resulting reactions produce a liquid made from long-chain hydrocarbons – this is blue crude, which is then refined to create the end product, the synthetic e-diesel.

Audi says that the carbon dioxide used in the process is currently supplied by a biogas facility but, further adding to the green impacts of the process, some of the CO2 is captured directly from the ambient air, taking the greenhouse gas out of the atmosphere.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: altfuels; audi; dieselfuel; ediesel; globalwarminghoax; greenpeace; hydrocarbons; johnpodesta; joule; jouleunlimited; jouleunlimitedtech; methane; opec; patrickmoore; petroleum; tomsteyer
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To: Hostage

The greenies will still complain.


81 posted on 04/27/2015 1:37:18 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: __rvx86

I did a google news search for “fusion” just now. All of the stories are about either fashion design or foodie trends. Good think we have our priorities straight.


82 posted on 04/27/2015 1:40:39 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: thackney

Ping.


83 posted on 04/27/2015 1:42:22 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Hostage

If you drink enough, she’ll be beautiful and smart!.............

Went to bed at two with a ten, woke up at ten with a two...............


84 posted on 04/27/2015 1:48:34 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: __rvx86

Oh we've achieved it, alright. We just can keep it going...............

85 posted on 04/27/2015 1:50:28 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

Yeah, yeah...I was referring to controlled fusion...for the production of other forms of energy....all the time, money, and energy we wasted on so-called “green” energy, we could have used to work on controlled fusion....and provide nearly limitless energy for everyone in the US...the era of “too cheap to meter”....


86 posted on 04/27/2015 1:58:30 PM PDT by __rvx86 (Ted Cruz: Proving that conservative populism is a winning strategy. GO CRUZ!)
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To: __rvx86

Controlling it, that’s the tricky part..................


87 posted on 04/27/2015 2:03:47 PM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Hostage

Audi = corporate giant. VW, largest car company in Europe.


88 posted on 04/27/2015 2:07:41 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Hostage

I own an Audi diesel A3. Like a lot, but I think it will be a long time before I get access to this fuel.


89 posted on 04/27/2015 2:45:47 PM PDT by AdaGray
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To: PLMerite

Since you asked, Andrea Rossi’s E-CAT results were confirmed by an independent test run last October. He no more deserves to be arrested than Galileo was.


90 posted on 04/27/2015 2:54:03 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Hostage

It does, however require about twice the electrical power as the fuel is capable of releasing. Electrical power is one thing a nuclear powered aircraft carrier has in abundance.


91 posted on 04/27/2015 5:45:22 PM PDT by cqnc (Don't Blame ME, I voted for the American!)
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To: cqnc

Thank you, that was already covered in several posts. Good to see you catch on.


92 posted on 04/27/2015 7:07:24 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: mlo

Whatever it turns into, it would happen anyway using fossil fuels.

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Exactly.


93 posted on 04/27/2015 8:32:26 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Westbrook

The Germans have been on to synthetic fuels for a long time.

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OK, please provide evidence of a net efficiency gain by using this fuel generation process. And please include evidence of how it provides more fuel economy than the existing processes. Thanks!


94 posted on 04/27/2015 8:40:35 PM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Hostage

No mention of the cost. An article could be written how America makes ethanol from dirt...(from the corn that grows there). That doesn’t tell us how it takes 1.5 gallons of diesel to produce 1 gallon of ethanol.

If it takes 5 bucks of electrical energy to make one gallon of e-diesel (from air and water!!) it’s not exactly environmentally friendly.


95 posted on 04/28/2015 12:16:17 AM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: loungitude

> OK, please provide evidence of a net efficiency gain by
> using this fuel generation process.

We are not talking about perpetual motion here.

You can’t run trucks on coal or electricity or natural gas or enriched uranium.

Trucks run on diesel. Using the aforementioned fuels to synthesize diesel, with the attendant efficiency losses, is what we are talking about.

The only question remaining, by my reckoning, is, “Is the process comparable in cost, after factoring in the efficiency losses, to the current method of processing diesel?”

At the end of WWII, when Germany no longer had access to petroleum in large enough quantities, the cost was not a first order concern.


96 posted on 04/28/2015 3:02:30 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: Hostage
... analysis shows the properties of the synthetic diesel are superior to fossil fuel ... more environmentally friendly ... energy efficiency ... renewable power ... quieter ... fewer pollutants .....

And it adds three inches to your p***s, guaranteed.

97 posted on 04/28/2015 5:22:18 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: loungitude
"Exactly."

Yes, but that means pointing to the exhaust is not a valid criticism. You'd have the exhaust anyway. But by doing this you get a net subtraction of CO2 when compared to using fossil fuels.

98 posted on 04/28/2015 5:18:25 PM PDT by mlo
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To: Army Air Corps

between $4.24/gal to $6.37/gal

http://www.energytrendsinsider.com/2015/04/30/is-audis-carbon-neutral-diesel-a-game-changer/

The Economics of the Process


99 posted on 05/01/2015 5:37:01 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RedEyeJack

i think the min for plant life is 180 ppm. The max was reached 250 million yrs ago at 2000 ppm. Currently it is 400ppm.


100 posted on 05/01/2015 5:45:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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