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Audi just created diesel fuel from air and water
Gizmag ^ | April 26, 2015 | Eric Mack

Posted on 04/27/2015 11:16:12 AM PDT by Hostage

Audi is making a new fuel for internal combustion engines that has the potential to make a big dent when it comes to climate change – that's because the synthetic diesel is made from just water and carbon dioxide.

The company's pilot plant, which is operated by German startup Sunfire in Dresden, produced its first batches of the "e-diesel" this month. German Federal Minister of Education and Research Johanna Wanka put a few liters of the fuel in her work car, an Audi A8, to commemorate the accomplishment.

The base fuel is referred to as "blue crude," and begins by taking electricity from renewable sources like wind, solar or hydropower and using it to produce hydrogen from water via reversible electrolysis. The hydrogen is then mixed with CO2 that has been converted into CO in two chemical processes and the resulting reactions produce a liquid made from long-chain hydrocarbons – this is blue crude, which is then refined to create the end product, the synthetic e-diesel.

Audi says that the carbon dioxide used in the process is currently supplied by a biogas facility but, further adding to the green impacts of the process, some of the CO2 is captured directly from the ambient air, taking the greenhouse gas out of the atmosphere.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: altfuels; audi; dieselfuel; ediesel; globalwarminghoax; greenpeace; hydrocarbons; johnpodesta; joule; jouleunlimited; jouleunlimitedtech; methane; opec; patrickmoore; petroleum; tomsteyer
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Love articles like this but always use caution with Euro Climate Change Tech Warriors. They are often more than not very dishonest. For example, it is possible this group wouldn't be announcing much of anything if they had a real solution as any number of corporate giants would descend on them, buy them out and put a gag on everyone associated. On the other hand, this is Audi so very likely they got something here.

I am much more trusting of organizations like the Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) when the below was published a year ago:

"The Navy Just Turned Seawater Into Jet Fuel"

http://cdn.defenseone.com/defenseone/interstitial.html?v=2.1.1&rf=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defenseone.com%2Ftechnology%2F2014%2F04%2Fnavy-just-turned-seawater-jet-fuel%2F82300%2F

And note the US Navy innovation does not require expensive electrolysis.

1 posted on 04/27/2015 11:16:12 AM PDT by Hostage
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The rest of the Audi story:

Sunfire claims that analysis shows the properties of the synthetic diesel are superior to fossil fuel, and that its lack of sulphur and fossil-based oil makes it more environmentally friendly. The overall energy efficiency of the fuel creation process using renewable power is around 70 percent, according to Audi.

“The engine runs quieter and fewer pollutants are being created,” says Sunfire CTO Christian von Olshausen.

The fuel can be combined with conventional diesel fuel, as is often done with biodiesel fuels already.

The Dresden pilot plant is set to produce about 42 gallons (160 l) of synthetic diesel per day in the coming months, and the two companies say the next step is to build a bigger plant.

“If we get the first sales order, we will be ready to commercialize our technology,” von Olshausen says.

Sunfire anticipates that the market price for the synthetic diesel could be between 1 and 1.5 Euros per liter, which would be nearly competitive or a little more expensive than current diesel prices in Europe, but the actual figure will be largely dependent on the price of electricity.

For an overview of the production process, check out the promotional video below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55Edq_Irstk


2 posted on 04/27/2015 11:18:04 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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German Synthetic Oil Production in WWII

Nothing new in Germany.

3 posted on 04/27/2015 11:18:55 AM PDT by Regulator
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Yes I knew about that but this has a different twist. Read the article.


4 posted on 04/27/2015 11:20:42 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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Many of us older guys produce tons of gas daily. All renewable energy. So what’s the big deal ? ;-)


5 posted on 04/27/2015 11:20:56 AM PDT by llevrok (To liberals, Treason Is the New Patriotism)
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To: Hostage

CO2 is captured directly from the ambient air, taking the greenhouse gas out of the atmosphere.

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And when the fuel is burned, this CO2 turns into what, skittles?


6 posted on 04/27/2015 11:20:58 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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Clickable link to the US Navy innovation:

http://cdn.defenseone.com/defenseone/interstitial.html?v=2.1.1&rf=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.defenseone.com%2Ftechnology%2F2014%2F04%2Fnavy-just-turned-seawater-jet-fuel%2F82300%2F


7 posted on 04/27/2015 11:22:17 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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If we had damn near infinite cheap energy this would be just fine, something like thorium reactors or orbital solar...

but we don;t

yet..


8 posted on 04/27/2015 11:23:55 AM PDT by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: Hostage

why am i skeptical?


9 posted on 04/27/2015 11:24:11 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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I wonder when the whole material balance is taken into account -(generation of electricity,capture of Co2, etc) that the net output is what they think, green wise.


10 posted on 04/27/2015 11:24:18 AM PDT by llevrok (To liberals, Treason Is the New Patriotism)
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Well, they say they’re taking CO2 “greenhouse gas” out of the atmosphere. Good for them, because we all know that CO2 isn’t required by the ecosystem for anything.


11 posted on 04/27/2015 11:25:06 AM PDT by Stevenc131
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The base fuel is referred to as "blue crude," and begins by taking electricity from renewable sources like wind, solar or hydropower and using it to produce hydrogen from water via reversible electrolysis.

Sounds like neat technology, but if this were feasible, we'd be running hydrogen fuel cells. Just no getting around the laws of thermal dynamics.

12 posted on 04/27/2015 11:25:07 AM PDT by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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Water to cost 5.00/gallon.


13 posted on 04/27/2015 11:26:08 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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as any number of corporate giants would descend on them, buy them out and put a gag on everyone associated

This is a common conspiracy theory, but despite the myth, there is no evidence that any "corporate giants" have bought out and suppressed superior technologies.

What has actually happened in the real world is that large corporations have produced superior technologies, failed to appreciate their potential, and allowed other smaller, more flexible companies to steal their lunch.

Xerox's PARC is a perfect and fully documented example of this.

14 posted on 04/27/2015 11:26:51 AM PDT by wideawake
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The energy density of diesel is 35.86 MJ/liter, or just short of 10 kWh. How much electricity does it take to create that same liter of fuel? I'll even cut them some slack if it doesn't have to go to a refinery with the energy usage to refine the oil into its various components.
15 posted on 04/27/2015 11:27:03 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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This will be illegal in California as it uses a rare commodity in the state to create the fuel.......................water!
16 posted on 04/27/2015 11:27:21 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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You can make anything out of anything, provided you have the right elements and are willing to throw enough energy at it. This article tries to gloss that over by saying their energy is ‘green’ e.g. subsidized. The real question is can it make a profit on it’s own merits without unfair financial advantages.


17 posted on 04/27/2015 11:27:28 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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"And when the fuel is burned, this CO2 turns into what, skittles?"

Whatever it turns into, it would happen anyway using fossil fuels.

18 posted on 04/27/2015 11:27:33 AM PDT by mlo
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19 posted on 04/27/2015 11:27:42 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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No doubt they will get extreme gov’t funding from around the world to pursue their global warming agenda only to collapse when it becomes evident this is all a scam.

Just my opinion based on past observations of the global warming scheme.

(This could be real)... that is energy that fuels these scams time after time, in times such as these; cynicism is most often prudent.


20 posted on 04/27/2015 11:27:47 AM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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