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Supercenter mystery: Conspiracy theories fly around the suddenly shuttered Wal-Mart
Tulsa World ^ | Friday, April 24, 2016 | Robert Evatt

Posted on 04/24/2015 6:52:30 AM PDT by Star Traveler

From crime to labor issues to an intricate military coup of the entire United States, conspiracy theories are flying around the closed Wal-Mart supercenters in Tulsa and elsewhere.

The official reason for the sudden closure of the store at Admiral Place and Memorial Drive last week was two years of plumbing issues that would take six months to fix.

That was the same reason given for each of the four other Wal-Mart locations, which all closed at the same time with just a few hours’ notice. The other stores are in Brandon, Florida; Pico Rivera, California; Midland, Texas; and Livingston, Texas.

Though the fuel pump and the pharmacy remain open at the Tulsa Wal-Mart, most of the supercenter has gone dark. One entrance is covered in black tarp, while the other is guarded by two Tulsa Police Department cars.

One of the most commonly-cited theories cited by commenters on the Tulsa World website and the Tulsa World Facebook page is that the store was closed due to crime problems. In February, officials from the Tulsa Police Department complained that the store received 1,500 larceny calls between 2012 and 2014, which is 400 to 500 more than other supercenters.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: layoffs; oklahoma; tulsa; walmart
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To: NCLaw441
uh, because closed chain stores don't do 6 at once in a few hours of time with the same phoney announcement about 6 months of plumbing repairs, and most don't have Homeland security vehicles sighted?

My speculation? Obama’s obsession to virulent Mussolini on White America in his final 14 months in office requires going big before he goes home- watch for massive inflow of refugees being trained, planed and bussed into these areas and these “closed” stores being used to supply their needs

Sam Walmart would be rolling over to see his family business being used to collaborate in the planned invasion of America by 3rd world illiterates, to alter the demographics of selected voting districts before the 2016 elections

probably a deal made in exchange for Obama’s regime calling off the labor unions.......

for a while

41 posted on 04/24/2015 8:34:47 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Star Traveler

Everyone hates Walmart when they open a store!
Everyone hates Walmart when they close a store!

Can’t please everyone. If they don’t like Walmart they can still get their Chinese made goods at K-Mart, Otasco, TGY, Looboyle, Oertlies, Belscot.

Oh wait! Those stores have also closed!


42 posted on 04/24/2015 8:35:07 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (</P><P><)
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To: silverleaf

Businesses should be able to close for whatever reason they want, but I wish they could be honest about it.

If it is about crime and bad employees, then I am happy they closed. The hood doesn’t deserve the stores and only drive the cost up for honest people.


43 posted on 04/24/2015 8:36:44 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: silverleaf

and this conspiracy theory will either be proven or disproven within the next few months

about 6 months to be exact, when the “plumbing repairs” have been made


44 posted on 04/24/2015 8:37:59 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: ctdonath2

***Walmart has eleven thousand stores.***

Not bad for a Mom and Pop store on the west side of the square in Bentonville. Then one day Sam took a chance to buy a series of bankrupt Ben Franklin stores and changed the name from WALTON’S 5&10 to WALMART.
The first man to break the economic stranglehold of the Chicken Men who only paid starvation wages.


45 posted on 04/24/2015 8:39:56 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (</P><P><)
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To: Star Traveler

I haven’t heard of any Brandon Wal-Mart in Tulsa, or nearby. Where is that?

*************

I think he is referring to the Walmart in Brandon Fl that is being closed.


46 posted on 04/24/2015 8:43:37 AM PDT by deport
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Went by their HQ for the first time last year.
I was surprised how spartan the place is.

Looks like a state prison surrounded by huge metal pole barn type structures.

They certainly aren’t wasting any shareholder dough on fancy facilities.

Now Mrs. Walton’s art museum (free to visit and highly recommended btw) was a whole ‘nother deal, but that’s personal money.


47 posted on 04/24/2015 8:43:53 AM PDT by nascarnation (Impeach, convict, deport)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

LOL!


48 posted on 04/24/2015 8:47:34 AM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Balding_Eagle

The McDonalds inside the WalMart stores are expanding.
They are being supersized.....


49 posted on 04/24/2015 8:58:33 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: DoodleDawg

......my “guess” is that Walmart Execs would not want their “profitability” regarding ANY store, much less the whole chain, to have to be defended in a generally hostile International Forum/Media.

Out of 11,000 stores, there surely are going to be six bad ones.


50 posted on 04/24/2015 9:01:41 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: Cowman
If corporate doesn't crack down on the managers Walmart will become Kmart.

That's my take as well - it depends upon the manager. All this can-you-top-this "filthy stores, people, etc." is in many was just pure B/S. Same with showing some of the people dressed up in dorky outfits - probably a fancy dress attendee or someone in a Halloween outfit - evidently no distinction is made in the zeal to bash Wal-Mart.

I worked as a night stocker in a W-M in Eastern Nevada and never saw any of those "dirty" people or any of those pictured. (There were some wild tattoos though.) Lord knows, I had grievances with some of the idiot supervisors but by and large, both the employees and customers were run of the mill middle class.

As with managers, it's also location, location, location.

51 posted on 04/24/2015 9:03:15 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka

Stores in my area are badly understaffed.
It isn’t the local managers here. Even shift rosters are directly dictated by Bentonville.

Before you bad mouth the manager at any particular location it behooves you to see if they still have any real authority, since we are talking Walmart.


52 posted on 04/24/2015 9:26:45 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Star Traveler

It’s the Walmart closed near Tampa for ‘plumbing’ issues... same excuse as the others.


53 posted on 04/24/2015 10:53:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (Dead Broke Hillary Dodged Sniper Fire With Her Immigrant Parents In Tuzla - Steyn)
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To: Cen-Tejas
2. I could fix ANY plumbing problem those stores might have without closing them.

Even with all of the lines installed beneath the slab?

54 posted on 04/24/2015 10:57:04 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

..........lol, yes, we once were given the option of tearing down a new 16 unit apt building I had just built (owner) or “fixing” the “plumbing problem” which was as bad as it could get i.e. the main 8” line six feet under the slab IN ROCK had a flat spot in it. My plumber left the country literally and I was STUCK with it.

Luckily the apartments were not occupied yet so we jackhammered the floor, dug down to the flat line and increased it’s fall! Luckily we had plenty room to drop the line vertically. Problem solved for $50,000, million dollar building saved. The key was lots of remedial protection INSIDE as the building was near finished. What I mean here is doing as little damage as possible as we worked which took lots of supervision.

Another time, we (I was a laborer attending UT then) just poured a slab for the final floor 4 stories up and found nearly every toilet line off six inches which screwed up the whole interior wall layout of that 4th floor. Solution: about a dozen jack hammers, 2 dozen laborers, 4 stories up, going 18 hours a day for a week. Then replumb, resteel and repour!

So, theres ALWAYS a solution, it is a matter of HOW MUCH?

Charles Whitman did his thing that week as we were tearing that floor off. We were maybe 1,000 yards away. Watched him through the transit/level scope.


55 posted on 04/24/2015 3:02:58 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid)
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To: baddog 219
I quit shopping at Walmart. The stores are dirty, and filled with hateful and stupid people. When I came out of Walmart after shopping, I felt like I needed a bath. For groceries, I shop at Publix and for home goods I shop Target.

What an asinine statement, The walmarts all over this area are cleal, well lighted, and BUSY.and Wal-mart isn't the cause of criminals, they are the cause of stores closing

Some say poverty causes crime, I say the opposite, crime caues poverty....a store will not stay open and pay employees in an area where people steal them blind...what's the point??

56 posted on 04/24/2015 7:46:54 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: DoodleDawg
Then why close them temporarily? Why not just say it's closed and be done with it?

They probably did...

57 posted on 04/24/2015 7:55:40 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: Star Traveler
Yep, I’ve seen them do major remodels and the store stays open. Wal-Mart is closing to fix plumbing ... LOL ...

Probably right...on the other hand, you can keep the store open and replace light fixtures, or replace carpeting, or paint the walls....but you can't possibly keep it open without plumbing...

58 posted on 04/24/2015 8:14:22 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL...)
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To: MrEdd
Grandkids - bloody zoo here, hence the delay.

To the matter at hand:

Stores in my area are badly understaffed.
Our graveyard shift was always 20-30% understaffed but they told us they couldn't find enough people who passed the drug test. One story was that 32 applied, 8 passed, 3 showed up for work and they all quit before the week was out.

It isn’t the local managers here. Even shift rosters are directly dictated by Bentonville.
Temperature control in the stores as well. Both employees and some customers complained about the heat (AZ summer) and were told that fact. We were all incredulous. Shift rosters were under the supervisor's control, with the rule-of-the-week being to cut hours. If there was a paid holiday during that week, they paid for the holiday but only gave you four days so you never got paid for over five.

Before you bad mouth the manager at any particular location it behooves you to see if they still have any real authority, since we are talking Walmart.
I will continue to bad mouth them (some anyway). I felt like our store was a Gulag where they sent the managers who screwed up elsewhere. In the three years I was there, we had four of 'em, each determined to redeem himself. If they did so, it was at the employees expense - financially (no raises or bonuses, even when they were allowed) as well as cutting hours. Morale was shot to Hell and, after recently talking with some of the 10 years later, it still hasn't improved as people are scared for their jobs and won't say anything - except in private.

59 posted on 04/27/2015 4:53:16 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Star Traveler

Six bad stores in bad areas, and one’s a high union target.

In many immigrant staffed plants, they put signs in the bathrooms to not flush paper towels. That’ll f up the plumbing.


60 posted on 05/07/2015 2:07:46 PM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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