Posted on 04/22/2015 9:13:57 AM PDT by cotton1706
“DesertRhino: I think you are actually 100% correct in your assessment. I once thought a Concon would be a good thing. But then I started considering that whatever conservatives would hope to gain (and there are much less conservatives than Republicans, as they definitely are NOT synonymous) out of a Concon, you have to think the liberals would be chomping at the bit to convene a Concon for all the havoc they could do with the Constitution. They could finally put in things that up to now really are not found, such as a right to abortion, same-sex marriage, as well as destroy our freedom of speech, freedom of religion, right to bear arms, etc., etc. Right now we are not in a position of strength, especially when a good percentage of the Republicans in office already are eager to sell us out!”
Many of our ‘leaders’ may have sold us out and the democrats may largely control the field. But it really doesn’t make much of a difference anymore. I too fear them doing terrible things to the Constitution, but i also see them doing the same things thou their employees in black robes anyway.
What we are essentially worried about is a peice of paper in the hopes that one day we might find a government that cares what is written on that paper enough to reverse all they’ve done to it. But i think that if such a revolutionary government ever did come, that paper would be of no more real uses to them and their successors than it is to the present government in Washington.
Washington’s Employees in black robes are not going to suddenly start upholding the Federal Constitution as written and practiced for 200 years simply because they don’t have to due to being unaccountable in practice, and they don’t want to being ideological nuts appointed by other ideological nuts unwilling to do such things themselves.
While a balanced budget amendment may do almost nothing to restore the Federal Constitution as written and practiced for 200 years, an amendment to make Washington more accountable to State interest would give us a tool to at least make the Text of the Constitution meaningful as a compromise between competeing powers again, and God willing shift the power back to our state between which we as individuals can at least vote for our rights with our feet.
The idea of a Constitutional convention of our states supports the idea of restoring power to the States more than thou Washington itself as at least a Constitutional convention of states is more incline to be run by actors interested in the power of their appointing state governments.
The wonderful thing about Article V convention is we can take our time, to expect to get all 34 clocks to strike this year or next is a bit naive. One of the basic truths about America is if congress moves slowly State legislators move even more slowly if at all together.
This is of course why it is a rather safe bet for federalism to allow a majority of State legislators to overwrite congress, as a mere majority could easily take years or a decade to assemble if at all, even then they are only likely to disagree with congress on matters of conflicting interest. Matters almost every american in each respective state will almost always be more likely to agree with their state than that of congress.
Thus if a majority of our State legislators ever did act together their acts should be regarded as far superior to that of Congress in its reflection of the well thought out will of our people.
“Yup. Every Lefty activist would show up with bells on, salivating over the chance to make health care, housing and an income all Constitutional Rights. “
Indeed were the invited that is precisely what they would do just as it is precisely what they have already been doing thou their federal employees in black robes.
The only difference between a Constitutional convention and what happens in the Federal supreme court regularly for the last 50 years is that we the people actually get a vote.
Ultimately however even that vote will be meaningless unless it is a vote on reigning in the Federal Employees in black robes to some kind of accountability to state & local objections to their abusive of power.
I suspect that you are right. Most state-level republicans have feet of clay, and until very recently, the state was totally controlled by democrats, and had been for decades. Republicans have been out of power so long that they don’t know how to govern.
“THE PEOPLE IN Oklahoma are, for the vast majority, very conservative “
And that doesn’t mean that the people that they elect to represent them are conservative, and will do what you think they will. Oklahoma has a deep history of populism and has been controlled by democrats for decades. Old habits die hard.
For those of you out-of-state: don’t count on the state government of Oklahoma doing what is right or best. After all, they are all government employees...
Oklahoma has become liberal. Too many want to have a free lunch on the the fed.
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