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Oklahoma House defeats resolution for convention of states
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| 4/22/15
| Rick Green
Posted on 04/22/2015 9:13:57 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Publius; Jacquerie
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:14:11 AM PDT
by
cotton1706
(ThisRepublic.net)
To: cotton1706
Oklahoma!? Wow, I’m shocked. I would have thought this was a slam dunk. Anyone have any local background on this?
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:16:18 AM PDT
by
Paine in the Neck
(Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
To: Paine in the Neck
The Senate had already passed it. My guess is that the powers that be are stepping in to defeat these resolutions as they have already in Virginia, North Dakota, etc.
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:18:03 AM PDT
by
cotton1706
(ThisRepublic.net)
To: cotton1706
There are many who believe this would be a runaway convention.
This is demagoguery by those invested in the status quo. The CoS can propose as many amendments as it wants but 3/4 of the states still have to ratify them.
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:18:51 AM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
To: Paine in the Neck
I am also shocked by this news!
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:19:08 AM PDT
by
Baynative
(We are experiencing the type of government the founders warned us about.)
To: Paine in the Neck
They seem like a pack of sniveling cowards to me.
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:19:40 AM PDT
by
onedoug
To: cotton1706; All
said the imperative to balance the federal budget outweighs the numerous questions surrounding such a convention, ..." The corrupt, citizen-elected Senate is the core problem with balancing the federal budget imo. And I suspect that Rep. Gary Banz doesnt understand this.
The 17th Amendment needs to disappear.
To: cotton1706
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:24:50 AM PDT
by
nathanbedford
("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
To: 5thGenTexan; 1010RD; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; aragorn; Art in Idaho; Arthur McGowan; ...
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:25:17 AM PDT
by
Publius
("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
To: cotton1706
Frankly it WILL be a runaway convention. All sorts of absurd and obnoxious amendments will be proposed and debated.
But, we are running out of options. And time.
To: cotton1706
I think you nailed it.
The unfortunate truth is that there are more defenders of the status quo in modern America than there are patriotic conservatives, even in the republican party.
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:26:05 AM PDT
by
jpl
("You cannot defeat an enemy you do not admit exists." - Lt. General Michael Flynn)
To: Buckeye McFrog
You mean like the runaway convention Bob Corker is holding in the senate right now?
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:27:45 AM PDT
by
chris37
(Heartless)
To: jpl
The unfortunate truth is that there are more defenders of the status quo in modern America than there are patriotic conservatives, even especially in the republican party. Fixed it....
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:29:48 AM PDT
by
Envisioning
(4.13.15 - That awkward moment in history when 53 million racists became sexists...)
To: Paine in the Neck
Also, this is an extremely dangerous tool. There is no restriction on what they can visit when a Concon is convened.
How would you like the first, second and 4th amendments revisited?
Its magical thinking to think that a constitutional convention would be a conservatives playground only.
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:31:00 AM PDT
by
DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
To: Blood of Tyrants
This is demagoguery by those invested in the status quo. Exactly, so remember when they come up for reelection just who voted for what..............
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:31:35 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
To: nathanbedford
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:32:47 AM PDT
by
conservativejoy
(We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
To: DesertRhino
No matter what comes out of a CoS, the states have to ratify them, so this is just a preliminary process, at best..............Dangerous? No. Necessary? YES..............................
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:33:01 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
To: Paine in the Neck
I want to hear the mechanism by which we totally dominate the concon, when we cannot win a presidential election, or remove Beohner, Mitchell, Manchin, Lindsey, etc.
Im all for it if we can dominate it somehow. That old Sun Tsu thing about winning the battle before it is fought, choosing where and when the battle will be.
I don’t want us to charge in and think we can debate our way to a conservative victory. It should not be left to chance.
I know Levin thinks it is achievable. Anyone know why he thinks conservative agendas would prevail in a concon? He has to have a solid line of reasoning.
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:36:28 AM PDT
by
DesertRhino
(I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
To: Red Badger
That's not enough anymore. These senate and house jobs weren't supposed to be 200k jobs with fifty credit cards for the workers and free trips around the world and money from lobbyists in the millions. Like Al Pacino said “This is not what I wanted!!” Hamilton, Washington, Jefferson and Smith would all say the same thing.’
How do you stop a nuclear warhead once its lost, forge runaway train. That's too easy
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posted on
04/22/2015 9:42:47 AM PDT
by
dp0622
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