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1 posted on 04/08/2015 2:39:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Welfare should be a temporary crutch, not a cure. If he really wants black votes by saying more people should get out of jail and go on welfare, his thinking is shallow. There are many other options for black Americans, I know for a fact.


2 posted on 04/08/2015 2:57:25 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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I find Rand Paul to be scary. Saw the beginning of his announcement and found his supporters to be scary.

Its an increasingly creepy world.


3 posted on 04/08/2015 2:57:33 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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Incarcerating citizens for cannabis is the real criminality.

Give the current oppressors a time machine and GW, TJ, and most of our founding fathers would have their doors kicked in with guns blazing.

Alcohol prohibition gave us Al Capone and the Kennedys!

Cannabis prohibition has given us Hussein and the Sinolas!

Do ya notice a pattern here yet?

5 posted on 04/08/2015 3:10:35 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed,)
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Just remember that nonviolent crimes include burglary, auto theft, drug dealing, pimping, identity theft.

Eric Garner's "harassment" is on the head of Deblasio who ordered the cops to go after the loosie sellers.

His death was due to his criminal history, poor health and resisting arrest.

Don't know where Garner got his cigs but black market sales of gigs in NYC are a huge source of funding for hamas and other terrorists.

I was done with Paul long ago.

6 posted on 04/08/2015 3:11:34 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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We do have a prison industrial complex that is killing us and has to go. There are far too many “crimes” created by our metastasized governments.

However, on the other end of the issue, we need to end “life imprisonment” with a swift death penalty for ALL violent and perverse sexual felonies. Murderers, rapists and molesters need to be hung or shot within weeks not years of conviction.

Addressing both ends of the issue would help get things done politically.


8 posted on 04/08/2015 3:25:53 AM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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At the same time, there's at least one space where he's strengthened an unorthodox policy position: reducing mass incarceration.

Oh, couldn't we just deport all the criminals to Australia?

13 posted on 04/08/2015 3:49:21 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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I wonder if the same people showing some support for Paul also agree with him that Voter ID laws are racist.


16 posted on 04/08/2015 4:04:13 AM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my home page))
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Paul’s outsized concern with Black criminals and illegal Hispanics as victims does not bode well for a potential presidency.


17 posted on 04/08/2015 4:11:18 AM PDT by montag813 (Pray for Israel)
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The cost to taxpayers for incarceration a prisoner is phenomenal. Prison should be for violent offenders. Drug addiction is a medical condition unless the addiction leads to a crime. People who commit crimes against property should be put to work on public projects like building roads or cleaning trash and made to pay back what they took.

I prefer Cruz or Walker, but even Paul is better than another DemocRat.


19 posted on 04/08/2015 4:28:27 AM PDT by ZULU (Je Suis Charlie. . GET IT OBAMA, OR DON'T YOU??)
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Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

I, too, favor emptying the prisons. Prison is a social catastrophe, creating many more crimes (by criminals whose criminality is greatly enhanced by their stay in prison).

Unlike Rand, however, I would accomplish reduction in the prison population by radical expansion of the death penalty and physical punishments.


20 posted on 04/08/2015 4:29:28 AM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise. .)
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I’m sorry...judging by the daily attacks on white citizens by people of darker skin tones, clearly, there’s not nearly enough people in prison.


27 posted on 04/08/2015 5:35:20 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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Truthfully we do incarcerate too many people. We have too many laws. Almost everything is agains’t the law anymore. The US incarcerates more people than any other country in the world. Its expensive and unnecessary. We need to fix the problem.


28 posted on 04/08/2015 5:41:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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I'm in agreement with most responses on this thread. Rand often goes too far, like his father, on several issues. However, he also brings up some subjects that are important, and would not otherwise be raised. He will also draw a VERY loyal voting bloc, albeit around 4-6 percent. He may also draw more minorities than expected with some of his ideas. He should not be ignored or denigrated.

It would be very wise for a small-government candidate to work with Rand, and get his endorsement, and hopefully the majority of his supporters, at the right time during the primary season. Offering an excellent cabinet position or other support that would help Rand pursue some of his goals (eg getting the fedgov out of punishing legal medical marijuana businesses) should be on Cruz's mind already.

31 posted on 04/08/2015 5:49:56 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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great.. turn all the criminals loose on the streets again, THAT will fix everything!

/s

(good grief, this idiot will get us all killed!)

GO AWAY PAUL!

Cruz or Lose


32 posted on 04/08/2015 5:54:32 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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Great—the new way for indolent men to be supported by the government: commit a crime bad enough to send you to prison, but not so bad as to keep you there.


34 posted on 04/08/2015 5:54:56 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Ted Cruz 2016!


38 posted on 04/08/2015 6:13:55 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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ending mandatory minimum sentences.

Sheeeeyit. Talk to any cop and he or she will tell you the most frustrating thing about the job is watching the perp they just arrested walking scot free while he or she is still writing the arrest report.

41 posted on 04/08/2015 7:01:10 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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Expanding welfare

FURP.

44 posted on 04/08/2015 8:05:33 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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Confirmed: he’s a flaming loony leftist.

Next!


50 posted on 04/08/2015 11:06:51 AM PDT by __rvx86 (¡SI SE PUEDE! (Cruz 2016!))
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I’m in favor of reducing the US’s place near the top of the incarceration rate by reevaluating sentencing policies but welfare for felons is insane. There is a difference between not shooting ourselves in the foot with excessive punitiveness and rewarding bad behavior. Cant Rand keep from shooting past reasonable positions and off the cliff?


51 posted on 04/08/2015 12:38:20 PM PDT by jarwulf
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