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A survey for progressives and journalists: Whom else should the government compel into service...
Washington Examiner ^ | 04/02/2015 | Timothy P. Carney

Posted on 04/02/2015 11:07:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

FULL TITLE: A survey for progressives and journalists: Whom else should the government compel into service in the name of non-discrimination?

It's near unanimous among the mainstream media and the American Left that a pizza shop should be required by the state to cater a gay wedding, or lose their livelihood. With that question apparently settled, I wonder in what other situations the government should force people to provide services. So I've compiled the following survey for our reporters and our progressive friends.

1. The Photographer

1a. The Bris: A fair number of secular liberals believe ritual circumcision of baby boys is immoral. If one such circumcision opponent were an event photographer, and he were asked to photograph a Jewish circumcision ritual known as a bris, should the state compel him to photograph it or face or fine for religious discrimination?

1b. The Arranged Marriage: Some cultures still believe in arranged marriage. If a wedding photographer found that a wedding he was booked to shoot was, in fact, an arranged wedding, should he be compelled to photograph it?

1c. The Schismatic Wedding: There are breakaway sects of the Catholic Church (mostly on the ultra-traditionalist side). If an ortohodox Catholic wedding photographer were booked for a wedding and then learned it was a schismatic sect, should he be compelled to shoot it?

2. The Prostitute

Given that prostitution is legal in a particular municipality:

2a. A female prostitute refuses to have sex with eastern Irish or Irish-American men, whom she stereotypes as brutal and unkind thanks to bad experiences in the past. Should the state force her to have sex with the Irish guys?

2b. A male prostitute refuses to have sex with women. Should he be forced to have sex with women?

2c. A male prostitute refuses to have sex with men. Should he be forced to have sex with men?

2d. A female prostitute who only has sex with women refuses to have sex with transgendered people who have penises, even if they identify as women. Should the government force her to drop her discriminatory policies?

3. The Caterer

3a. A church group for gays trying to overcome homosexual tendencies has a Christmas party. Should a gay caterer be forced to cater the event?

3b. A feminist group has a topless party to protest the patriarchy. A married male caterer declines once he learns it will be topless. Should he be compelled?

4. Weddings

4a. St. John the Baptist Catholic Church has a school gym they sometimes rent out to parishioners. A gay parishioner wants to have his wedding reception there. Should the state force the church to host the reception?

4b. A marriage counselor provides Christian-based counseling services to married couples. Should she be forced to accept gay couples?


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1 posted on 04/02/2015 11:07:09 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Here’s an idea. How about we compel all journalists must attend Sunday worship services to make sure we meet with their approval of openness and non-discrimination?


2 posted on 04/02/2015 11:11:38 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Should Ebony magazine be forced to run KKK ads ?


3 posted on 04/02/2015 11:13:40 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Here's a concise answer:

1. If progressives want to refuse service to anyone, or refuse to do business with someone, or boycott someone, it is ok, even highly principled.

2. If conservatives want to refuse service to anyone, to refuse to do business with someone, or boycott someone, it is "discrimination" and subject to fine, imprisonment, and/or moral censure.
4 posted on 04/02/2015 11:13:40 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And their answer is: "Yes - Except the situations which might bring a leftist service-insustry worker in to contact with someone who does not share his/her beliefs.
5 posted on 04/02/2015 11:14:07 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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Indiana Governor Mike “Nancy-boy” Pence would say “Yes” to all of the survey questions, and participate in 2c, as a show of solidarity in opposing any kind of discrimination.


6 posted on 04/02/2015 11:16:09 AM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

One thing at a time. Once we’re all compelled by threat to fines or marginalization to affirm Sodomite marriage, they’ll start working on all the other aggrieved groups.


7 posted on 04/02/2015 11:16:25 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Doctors, lawyers, accountants, ad agencies! From now on, first come, first served! Turn no one away.
All newspapers shall accept all ads and print all letters to the editor. No exceptions! Fair is fair.
Cemeteries must bury everyone who applies. And their pets too.
Pet shelters and adoption agencies must not turn anyone away.
Private schools have always accepted students on an individual basis. Cut that out!


8 posted on 04/02/2015 11:20:33 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Should shelters for abused women also take abused men?

Should women-only clubs and businesses be compelled to take male clients?


9 posted on 04/02/2015 11:24:30 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Remember, this isn’t about “compelling service”,

it’s about finding the point at which a Christian will resist,

and criminalizing that resistance.


10 posted on 04/02/2015 11:25:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Can a Muslim butcher be compelled to prepare and provide pork products to a customer who is having a Christian church BBQ?


11 posted on 04/02/2015 11:29:55 AM PDT by bigtoona
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I think privately owned small businesses should be able to discriminate any way they want to. The free market would take care of problems.


12 posted on 04/02/2015 11:31:52 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Should BS of A be forced to accept homosexual leaders? Oh, wait, they already do.


13 posted on 04/02/2015 11:39:40 AM PDT by Gator113 (Cruz, Lee, and Sessions speak for me.... most anyone else is just noise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Stupid examples. It needs to be turned back on the stupid libs. Should businesses be forced to cater to an all men group? How about an all black men’s group? All white men’s group?

Should a lesbian run business be forced to serve a White Separatists or skin head group. Seems like that would violate their lesbian religion.


14 posted on 04/02/2015 11:40:19 AM PDT by subterfuge (Minneseeota: the laughingstock of the nation - for lots of reasons!)
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To: Rusty0604

The problem with that spin is that is what business owners in the 50s said about blacks. It is tricky to separate that and the debate now in the minds of liberals and public school skulls of mush.


15 posted on 04/02/2015 11:40:49 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: MrB
Remember, this isn’t about “compelling service”,

it’s about finding the point at which a Christian will resist,

and criminalizing that resistance.

Bullseye !!!

16 posted on 04/02/2015 11:50:04 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: DonaldC

Plenty of businesses in the 50s and 60s were against segregation for the simple reason that it cost them money. Don’t be Fooled by the rewritten charicature of the 50s that is described today. The market would have cleared out the numbskulls quite nicely.


17 posted on 04/02/2015 11:50:08 AM PDT by waverna
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To: MrB

Remember, this isn’t about “compelling service”,
it’s about finding the point at which a Christian will resist,
and criminalizing that resistance.

We have a winner.


18 posted on 04/02/2015 11:50:11 AM PDT by delapaz
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To: delapaz

Should government then compel the Muslim taxi driver to accomodate a blind customer with a service dog? Should Muslim store owners be compeled to sell Kosher hot dogs or pork products?


19 posted on 04/02/2015 12:09:32 PM PDT by GYPSY286 (Politicians must USE their heads or Americans will LOSE their heads.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A gay print shop is approached by the Westboro Baptist Church to print “God Hates Fags” posters & banners....should that printer be forced to comply?


20 posted on 04/02/2015 12:28:53 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Walker/Cruz 2016)
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