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To: Nero Germanicus
Trying to determine if an original document is forged by looking at scanned images of pdfs of the document on computer screens is fruitless.

You are completely misstating the issue. Nobody is claiming that there is a sheet of paper in the archives of the State of Hawaii that is a forgery. It is the PDF itself that is the crude, rank forgery. It is not the result of a scan of a sheet of paper. It is a digitally-assembled fraud. It bears the typefaces of six different typewriters because it is a digitally-created and digitally-manipulated hoax.

You evade the actual question. You misstate the actual problem. For a real response, you substitute snow jobs/data dumps.

165 posted on 03/30/2015 3:18:42 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: Arthur McGowan

The only birth document that matters legally is the ORIGINAL, vault edition and the only information on the original, vault edition that matters is the date of birth and the place of birth.
One of Obama’s daughters could have drawn a crayon picture of his birth certificate to be placed on the whitehouse.gov web site, there is no crime involved. The digitized image is for demonstration purposes only.

Mitt Romney placed a copy of his short form Michigan birth certificate on the Internet and that document says that it is “VOID” four times on the copy, no problem, no crime.
Official documents are printed on safety paper that is intentionally altered when it is photocopied to prevent identity theft. Big deal.
Two Republican Secretaries of State in Arizona and Kansas attached copies of the whitehouse.gov pdf to their requests for data verification and the Hawaii Registrar verified that the DATA is the same on the whitehouse.gov copies as on the original.
Why do YOU think that there has never been a CRIMINAL investigation for forgery, identity theft, document altering, fraud or election fraud if there is something wrong with the whitehouse.gov image? (There is absolutely nothing wrong with it). The original document was photocopied at the Hawaii Department of Health and two copies were provided to Judith Corley, White House Counsel. Every member of the White House press corps was provided with a black and white hard copy, photocopy of one of the two copies provided to Judith Corley.

J. Scott Applewhite, an Associated Press photographer and Savannah Guthrie, NBC News correspondent both took photos of the hard copies provided by the Hawaii Department of Health.
When Mr. Applewhite was asked about his photo, he replied:
“You ask about the president’s birth certificate photo. I went to the White House regularly for many years but now concentrate on Congress. I certainly remember that day when the White House press office was handing out copies of the President Obama’s birth record in order to dispel the controversy and argument about his true nationality. Since I don’t have a macro setup or lens, I’m sure I just copied the sheet of paper handed out by the White House by using my Canon EOS 1D Mark IV at the time, either using a 24-70 zoom or a 50mm lens. And yes, handheld.

This wasn’t art. It was early in the day and I was simply making a quick copy of the document to transmit to the AP’s Washington Bureau — it would have been their job then for the reporters to use their resources to validate or question the information. My cameras are pretty high resolution — generally about 40 to 50mb every time I push the button. This time however I was just a human xerox machine. As for the bluish tint, not sure, since I was simply relaying the information on the document, I may not have done the usual color correction which is normal to adjust proper skin tones, etc.

As I recall, it wasn’t too long after copying the document that President Obama actually appeared in the Press Room to personally address the issue.”


One of those two hard copies was placed upside down in the feeder of a Xerox WorkCentre 7655. The e-mail workflow was chosen and the recipient selected. The default values were used and the scan button was pressed.

The document was received in email and opened using OS/X Preview. The recipient noticed that the document was upside-down and rotated it 180 degrees and saved it.
Since then several people familiar with the process have exactly duplicated the workflow.
Now if there was different data regarding date of birth and place of birth on the whitehouse.gov version from what is on the original, then we’d have something to talk about.
Here’s a link to an interview with someone who’s seen the original Certificate Of Live Birth:
http://youtu.be/e9D4n6_Uifk


167 posted on 03/30/2015 4:59:44 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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To: Arthur McGowan

So let me get this straight. When there is an original document, you want to focus on scanned digital images of the original document?
Why?
I haven’t evaded anything. I’ve addressed the core issues directly. If anyone still needs to verify where and when Barack Obama was born, more than seven years into his terms in office, convince a judge, any judge, to issue a court order for inspection of the vault edition Certificate of Live Birth and compare it to what it says on the (allegedly forged) whitehouse.gov image. Alternatively or additionally, a congressional subpoena would also allow for inspection of the original, hard copy, vault edition birth certificate.


170 posted on 03/30/2015 5:33:19 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus (PALIN/CRUZ: 2016)
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