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Andreas Lubitz Religion Debate: Germanwings Crash Raises Questions Over Pilot's Faith
http://www.ibtimes.com/andreas-lubitz-religion-debate-germanwings-crash-raises-questions-over-pilots-faith-1860396 ^

Posted on 03/27/2015 7:14:11 AM PDT by MNDude

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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

That’s a line of reasoning worthy of, well, a muslim. Using the same logic, I can “prove” you’re a muslim.

A. Some muslims commit mass murder with aircraft.
B. A German guy committed mass murder with an aircraft.

Therefore, C: The german guy is a muslim.

This is the logical fallacy of the undistributed middle, I believe. Google it.


61 posted on 03/27/2015 9:01:38 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: wideawake

Quite. My concern is more that it is counter-productive.

The most idiotic attorney in the world knows that if he makes 10 assertions in court, and three are disproven, he greatly weakens his case over what it would have been had he limited his assertions to the 7 that were actually true.


62 posted on 03/27/2015 9:07:28 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

You are right on target. It distresses one that more and more people on our side have adopted the mind set of the Left, that being letting emotion overrule logic and fact. Since it has become both sides of the political divide, people as a whole live lives totally within their own bubble. We are all becoming like what Colin Cowheard calls “Hockey Guy.” The guy who loves Hockey and thinks everyone else is stupid and crazy because they do not share his passion. They cannot except the FACT that they belong to a small minority, thus they lash out at everyone else, instead of enjoying their fandom on its own merits.


63 posted on 03/27/2015 9:13:24 AM PDT by gusty
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To: john mirse

How about remove the pilots? Global Hawk already flies itself.


64 posted on 03/27/2015 9:14:37 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Personally, I think there is LOTS of perfectly accurate ammo to use against Islamism, and that firing stuff in the direction of Islam that is easily proven to be untrue simply weakens the value of the true accusations.

I agree, the knee jerking is embarrassing.

65 posted on 03/27/2015 9:25:06 AM PDT by Paradox (and now here we are....)
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To: B212

If this does turn out to be the case, we can fully expect the TSA to respond by imposing a ban on girlfriends.


66 posted on 03/27/2015 9:34:59 AM PDT by Squawk 8888 (Will steal your comments & post them on Twitter)
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To: Romulus
Not so. I'm not interested in whether it is a logical question. Only the investigator's insistence that any such question about the co-pilot is irrelevant. That is a ridiculous stance. Given previous occurrences, even excluding 9/11/01, there is precedence enough to make it a valid question.

About 5 years ago an Egyptian pilot drove his plane into the ocean while giving praise to allah. So the question is relevant.

67 posted on 03/27/2015 9:43:04 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (I've been to the 15th broken moon of the Medusa Cascade & the diamond coral reefs of Kataa Flo Ko.)
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To: Paradox

As far as this MD’s note is concerned, I know that on many labels for prescription meds here in the US, it is stated NOT to drive or operate machinery until you are sure you won’t suffer drowsiness or have some other detrimental side effects, (and I assume things are similar in Germany)..so I wonder if Lubitz’s doctor prescribed some medication that MIGHT cause such problems, issued the note recommending he not fly, and Lubitz chose to ignore the note because he thought it would end his career..so he decided to end his career in his own way, meaning to crash the plane..


68 posted on 03/27/2015 9:50:28 AM PDT by Radagast the Fool (At my signal, UNLEASH PALIN!!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

We have the voice recorder data, and there’s no allah-praisin’ going on. Isn’t that relevant?

I am all for exploration for links to islam when stuff like this happens, but in the absence of any such links to date, and with plausible non-islam evidence emerging, it’s time to let go of the longing to hang this around Mohammed’s neck.


69 posted on 03/27/2015 10:13:04 AM PDT by Romulus
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To: G Larry

No,no “German news report”, only that nut Michael Mannheimer and his blog, and he seems to have pulled his post now.


70 posted on 03/27/2015 10:36:46 AM PDT by MoraBlack
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To: MNDude

I want to know what anti-depressents, “health supplements”, sleeping pills and other medication that peckerhead was on.


71 posted on 03/27/2015 10:49:09 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: MNDude
...“I find it disturbing and depressing that at a time like this some people feel compelled to search desperately for explanations that presume religious causation.”

Right, professor; it was not a religion, it was ISLAM. A socio-political system that has masqueraded as a religion since its founding.

72 posted on 03/27/2015 1:11:51 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Madam Theophilus
Perhaps the officials do not want to go THERE.

There may be no THERE there. Jews are not especially big on killing themselves just kill a bunch'a other folks. Muslims are.

73 posted on 03/27/2015 1:16:00 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Squawk 8888

Maybe he told his doctor he had just converted to Islam, felt much better and said something like Allah Akbar.


74 posted on 03/27/2015 1:20:20 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Romulus
We have the voice recorder data, and there’s no allah-praisin’ going on. Isn’t that relevant?

When you or I are alone, do we pray aloud, or just in our minds?

75 posted on 03/27/2015 1:24:13 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

Can’t speak for you, but I’m not muslim.


76 posted on 03/27/2015 1:31:41 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Sherman Logan

100% agree. I read that German article over and over thinking I was missing something.


77 posted on 03/27/2015 1:58:28 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: AppyPappy
So he could have been a space alien because you can’t rule out anything. Or maybe he died at childbirth....hmmmm....

Please, tell me how it's relevant to bring up the ridiculous subject of space aliens, as a reference "in this day and age" as I stated in my OP. Is radical Islamism even an offensive subject to breach here on FR? If so, then this PC. World HAS gone mad.
78 posted on 03/27/2015 3:13:06 PM PDT by rickomatic
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To: john mirse
US airlines already have a better answer. The cockpit is a "No Lone Zone". Always at least 2 people in the cockpit at all times. If one leaves for any reason either a relief pilot, or other crew membeer enters. This was used for decades in the US military when dealing with nuclear weapons.

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79 posted on 03/27/2015 9:19:32 PM PDT by Kozak (Walker / Cruz 2016 or Cruz/ Walker 2016 Either one is good...)
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