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To: HiTech RedNeck
then by the light you “cordially” proffer no government could ever have any authority.

Not at all. Merely that government does not have unlimited authority. Do you disagree? Do you think government has unlimited power and authority? I think not. All I'm saying is that government has limited authority, which is strictly defined by its purpose:

"... it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil."

In our case, our government is (or ought to be) limited by our Constitution, which severely limits the powers of the Federal government. Now this next statement is just my own opinion, mind you, but laws that are made by the Federal government, such as Obamanocare that are made outside the scope of the stated powers of the Constitution are simply ultra vires. It's none of the Federal goverment's damm business whether I have health insurance or not because there is nothing in the Constitution that authorizes or grants them any power over health insurance, because health insurance is not and has never been regarded as interstate commerce.

The actual biblical limit is drawn at being required to sin. Nobody has obligation to yield to being required to sin by the government.

"Therefore, to one who knows the right thing to do and does not do it, to him it is sin."
James 4:17

Do they cause you or others to sin when they compel you to pay money that goes for abortion-killing the innocent? Do they have the authority to do that?

Cordially,

40 posted on 03/27/2015 5:37:40 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond

If a government does anything wrong with taxes (let alone your example), do they make you sin when they take taxes from you?

Beware such an argument because it goes against Jesus’ own words.

Unless it were something explicit like an abortion support surcharge on your tax bill, that doesn’t count in this context. Tomorrow they could change the law and stop doing that with the money they have collected. The moral onus is on those with the authority to spend, not the authority to take.

Beware that your “cordially” isn’t actually “self congratulatorily.”


41 posted on 03/28/2015 3:38:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Diamond

My point, well buttressed by the bible, is that in fact by God’s economy, governments don’t lose their legitimate rights and duties because of sinning, although the Lord may cause them to lose their places through the transpiration of worldly events.

Of course when they sin, they sin. That is a tautological truth. This is not heaven and heaven’s rules do not apply to the authorization of a government to be a government.

As for the idea of righteously overthrowing a government, at best we have to bring into the picture Jesus’ advice about meeting one army with a differently sized one. If you have bumped away Nero but established an anarchy, you probably have sinned.


42 posted on 03/28/2015 3:50:02 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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