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Marijuana Edibles Blamed For Keystone Death
Denver CBS ^ | 03/25/2015 | Brian Maass

Posted on 03/26/2015 10:14:41 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd

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To: Nifster

” the THC levels that are 3 times greater than pot of the 60s....like moving from beer to Captain Morgan’s 151”

No, beer is around 3.5-5% alcohol by volume (for American beers), or 7-10 proof, so to compare it to going from beer to 151 (which is a Bacardi product I believe), you would need the marijuana to be at least 15 times stronger.


41 posted on 03/26/2015 11:18:08 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Responsibility2nd; DiogenesLamp
He stalks mocks you and I.

Corrected. You only wish you were interesting enough to have a stalker.

42 posted on 03/26/2015 11:25:14 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Boogieman

Also even with the beer/151 analogy, you’re going from one legal product to another.

Yes, today’s marijuana is stronger than in the past. That means you have to use less of it to get as high as you did in the past.

Unlike 151, which is something you can go into a liquor store and buy enough of to kill you tonight, there really isn’t a toxic level of marijuana that you can easily consume.


43 posted on 03/26/2015 11:26:59 AM PDT by arbitrary.squid
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To: DiogenesLamp

Damn; now you are going to have the feds putting labels on booze that say “COSUMPTION OF THIS PRODUCT IN MASS QUANTITES CAN CAUSE GROSS STUPIDITY”.


44 posted on 03/26/2015 11:27:25 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: DiogenesLamp
I expect he will show up shortly and tell us that this incident is the fault of everything but pot.

If someone wildly exceeds the recommended dose of a medication and dies, is it the "fault" of the medication? Wildly exceeding the recommended dose is exactly what the deceased did.

45 posted on 03/26/2015 11:28:02 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom
You only wish you were interesting enough to have a stalker.

I wish you would go away and shut up about weed. Like I said, you are just like the queers who won't shut up about being "gay". They think everyone needs to know about their "gayness" and acknowledge them, but most of us just wish they would shut up and stop trying to get attention.

46 posted on 03/26/2015 11:28:12 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: ConservingFreedom; DiogenesLamp

STALKS.

I said you stalk DL and I. And to prove my point - here you are.


47 posted on 03/26/2015 11:30:14 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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To: arbitrary.squid
Well you replied, but you didn't respond. That alcohol causes some people to do bad things does not justify Marijuana causing some people to do bad things.

If anything, it argues against tolerating another such trouble causing drug.

48 posted on 03/26/2015 11:30:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Boogieman
“Excessive alcohol use is a leading cause of preventable death. This dangerous behavior accounted for approximately 88,000 deaths per year from 2006–2010, and accounted for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20–64 years.”

Here we go again with that tu quoque argument. " Because alcohol does these bad things, we should allow Marijuana to do these bad things."

Marijuana has a looooooooong way to go to catch up to alcohol in this department.

And why on Earth should we want to let it?

49 posted on 03/26/2015 11:31:53 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Here we go again with that tu quoque argument.”

BUZZ!!! You brought up alcohol and marijuana, not me, so you cannot claim this fallacy.

Nice try, though.


50 posted on 03/26/2015 11:33:26 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Responsibility2nd
So the guy doesn't have the slightest clue what he is doing, ingests far too much pot-laced food despite the clear label not to do so, freaks out and shoots himself, and the genius contingent of Freepers immediately jumps into action declaring that using the US Constitution as toilet paper in order to suppress a drug that is far less dangerous than legal alcohol has been proven justified. Congrats, people.

Hey, did you geniuses know that taking too much Tylenol can kill you? Why are there so many dopers out there who only care about their legal Tylenol? Send SWAT to their houses, I say! They're just Tylenol dopers, after all, not real human beings.
51 posted on 03/26/2015 11:34:04 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Boogieman
No, beer is around 3.5-5% alcohol by volume (for American beers), or 7-10 proof, so to compare it to going from beer to 151 (which is a Bacardi product I believe), you would need the marijuana to be at least 15 times stronger.

Assuming the effects are linear, and not logarithmic. All the available evidence I see indicates that the effects are logarithmic.

50 mg of marijuana appears to make someone psychotic, where five beers would only make someone jolly.

52 posted on 03/26/2015 11:34:18 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: DiogenesLamp
I expect he will show up shortly and tell us that this incident is the fault of everything but pot.

Would you rather he make up statistics to support his arguments? Or do you have a monopoly on that tactic?

53 posted on 03/26/2015 11:35:55 AM PDT by gdani (No sacred cows)
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To: Boogieman

“Excessive alcohol use is a leading cause of preventable death. This dangerous behavior accounted for approximately 88,000 deaths per year from 2006–2010, and accounted for 1 in 10 deaths among working-age adults aged 20–64 years.”

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There is a big difference between the long slow slide into death of alcoholism and the rapid sudden death of alcohol poisoning which would be a better comparison to the marijuana deaths.


54 posted on 03/26/2015 11:36:27 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: 5th MEB
Damn; now you are going to have the feds putting labels on booze that say “COSUMPTION OF THIS PRODUCT IN MASS QUANTITES CAN CAUSE GROSS STUPIDITY”.

What, you don't like consistency? Apparently you have to have "instructions" to keep from eating five marijuana cookies. Youse guys are always comparing it to Alcohol anyways, so we might as well flip the script.

55 posted on 03/26/2015 11:36:35 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: arbitrary.squid

“That means you have to use less of it to get as high as you did in the past.”

To continue the analogy, you don’t drink hard liquor out of a pint glass (unless you’re a moron). Likewise, people don’t go rolling a giant spliff out of high grade marijuana (unless they are someone like Snoop Dogg who can afford to throw money away).


56 posted on 03/26/2015 11:36:44 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: fr_freak
Hey, did you geniuses know that taking too much Tylenol can kill you? Why are there so many dopers out there who only care about their legal Tylenol? Send SWAT to their houses, I say!

LOL! Make sure to shoot their dogs.

57 posted on 03/26/2015 11:37:14 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ßuddaßudd
I heard about a woman who drank too much water and died...

Ban Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO)

58 posted on 03/26/2015 11:38:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Boogieman
you don’t drink hard liquor out of a pint glass

Some posting here seem like they might. ;-D

59 posted on 03/26/2015 11:38:38 AM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A government strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Assuming the effects are linear, and not logarithmic. All the available evidence I see indicates that the effects are logarithmic.”

One could say the same for alcohol, which would make the comparison still completely valid.

“50 mg of marijuana appears to make someone psychotic, where five beers would only make someone jolly.”

False equivalence. The 10mg was a recommended dose to reach a level of intoxication, which could not be attained by drinking a single beer. Obviously, dosage of alcohol varies a lot due to the way it is metabolized, but let us say the average person is well intoxicated by six beers. If they drink 30, quickly enough so that the effects are felt all at once, then I would not describe the effect as “jolly”.


60 posted on 03/26/2015 11:41:38 AM PDT by Boogieman
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