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The Old Man and the Sea of Black Mob Violence (from article: “It’s war now")
am thinker ^ | 3/26/15 | c flaherty

Posted on 03/26/2015 6:57:29 AM PDT by bestintxas

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To: Leaning Right

Thank you. It’s really all I was trying to say.

And now you know why I don’t tweet. ;-)


61 posted on 03/26/2015 8:48:20 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: BenLurkin
In the end, it really isn't about race . There are plenty of Black people who are good citizens.

It is about thug culture.

And to sweep the acts of thugs under the carpet because they might be of one race is to hide the truth.

62 posted on 03/26/2015 8:52:56 AM PDT by RoosterRedux (WSC: The truth is incontrovertible; malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end...)
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To: roofgoat

[Violence eventually has to be dealt with other than prayer.]

Violence has to be dealt with with prayer. Pray for the enemy to be exposed. Pray that no weapon formed against America will prosper.

Violence will be dealt with - God’s way, God’s time if we only believe and act according to His will. “Vengeance is mine.” sayeth the Lord.

Unfortunately Christians are AWOL in the prayer department.


63 posted on 03/26/2015 8:55:04 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: bestintxas

Simple lesson here.

Don’t call 911.

Keep gun & shovel handy.


64 posted on 03/26/2015 8:59:57 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: RoosterRedux

“There are plenty of Black people who are good citizens”

93% of US Blacks voted for a stone cold racist in 2012. 08, maybe not everyone knew what he was about. In ‘12, blacks knew.

Blacks are not stupid. They knew the economy still sucked, they hated the fact that BO opened the border to Mexicans, they didn’t like BO supporting gay marriage. They knew deep down BO did nothing for them but one thing - racially “sticking it” to whites.

So that “most blacks are good” is BS. They have racist blood on their hands.

Do you think that if it was 1950 something in “Pick-A-Southern-State” USA, and 93% of whites voted for a known stone cold racist for their Governor, Blacks back then would say amongst themselves.....

“There are plenty of white people who are good citizens here in 1950 something Pick-A-Southern-State”

93%. A massive, undeniable percentage.


65 posted on 03/26/2015 9:05:47 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: Leaning Right

“This simply an accurate historical observation.

Actually it’s not.

If it were, you’d see this behavior in other countries.

I don’t see blacks in Europe stomping around about how their ancestors were slaves.


66 posted on 03/26/2015 9:06:39 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: RoosterRedux
And to sweep the acts of thugs under the carpet because they might be of one race is to hide the truth.

Good point! The national conversation should be about the thug culture. It is certainly understandable why many folks bring up blacks. Most thugs are black. But when race is highlighted, the focus shifts away from the thug culture to racial issues.

End result? The thug culture gets a pass yet again, and the race-hustlers have a field day.

67 posted on 03/26/2015 9:06:52 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

So its WW2, and we as a nation should have only prayed that the Germans and Japanese would stop their quest for world domination.

Prayer AND Action. And sometimes, the action has to be brutal. That’s what war is, horrific and brutal. No Kumbaya.

Pollyanna Christianity sounds beautiful. And if that’s what God wants, then I guess I am wrong and sinning. I’ll admit it. Won’t twist the Word to my liking BUT realize when good men do nothing...........

I write again - Prayer AND eventually ACTION on man’s part. Otherwise, slaughter. and I don’t buy for a minute any man with wife and kids are OK with that regardless of Bible interpretations.


68 posted on 03/26/2015 9:13:50 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: cuban leaf
This country sowed the seeds of its own destruction at its inception when it tolerated slavery. We never fully recovered. We never will.

Respectfully disagree.  As others here have pointed out, America was created in a world that had long been comfortable with slavery.  The remarkable thing is that we chose, as a nation, to buck that conditioning and reject slavery as a moral wrong.  On a national scale, it is a one-of-a-kind achievement, and we have a right to enjoy it, and to hold it over other nations as a mark of our truly exceptional nature as a people, and a goad to them for their own moral improvement.

However, we did blow reconstruction.  My dad taught and was a principal in the Chicago public schools for about 40 years.  He saw all this coming.  All of it. A woman from the community once told him, to his face, "you had us in slavery for 400 years, we're gonna have you in slavery for 400 years."  Dad's analysis was that we prolonged the slave mentality by early on by trying too hard to protect the newly freed slaves from the challenges of life as free persons.  This was done for political reasons, of course, and the policy lives on in the likes of the new plantation masters Jaskson, Sharpton et al.  The key is dependency.  Frederick Douglas understood the problem well:
"I have found that, to make a contented slave, it is necessary make a thoughtless one. It is necessary to darken his moral and mental vision, and as far as possible, to annihilate his power of reason. He must be able to detect no inconsistencies in slavery; he must be made to feel that slavery is right...."
Enter Marxism.  How can we persuade millions of former slaves that slavery is still right?  By rebranding it as a "right" to depend on big government, or the instruments of revenge (aka reparations), to set right things that a free-thinking man or woman would insist on taking care of for themselves.  The greater tragedy is that so many who have no history of slavery have bought into the lie, and are putting themselves in chains without a fight, because they too have begin to think like slaves.

Is there a way out?  Yes, there is.  Jesus said it.  You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.  Jesus speaks here to spiritual realities, spiritual truths, because they do come first.  No man or woman can be free who fails to understand that they owe their first duty of obedience to their Creator.  A man or woman who only worships God will have little use for the lesser deities invented by humans or politicians.  It is a paradox.  If God is our one Master, no one else can be.  Jesus said it.  You can't serve two masters.  Those truths are the seeds of our redemption.

But the truth sets us free in a broader sense as well.  One of the things my dad tried to do, and for which he was punished by Jesse Jackson and the elder Mayor Daley, was instill in his students the sense of reality that comes from having the opportunity to fail.  He rejected the idea of using classrooms as day care warehouses for disengaged hoodlums.  In that view they were so much dead weight being passed from grade to grade, with no concern at all for their future success.  His programs rejected that slave mentality, and ran instead on the principle of personal responsibility.  You own your own success, and you own your own failure. Those programs were working.  Kids respond to a genuine challenge, especially when they figure out it is really for their benefit.  It can happen.  Those of you who have given up all hope are probably unaware of how much we could do to turn this around if we regained control of the educational process.  It's not the only piece of the puzzle, but it's a big one.  

But the obstacles are well-entrenched, and it would take a serious fight to root them out.  A younger Jesse Jackson sat with my dad in his office one day and told him, to his face, he was the wrong color for the job.  If that isn't racism, then there's no such thing as racism.  The good guys in the black community have to come out against this, and some are.  But numbers matter.  They have to learn the truth, the whole lot of them.  That's how they get to freedom.  It begins in the heart and mind.  Race hatred IS slavery.  It darkens a person's "moral and mental vision" profoundly. It limits your world to a nightmare cartoon, created by your masters explicitly to control you through misguided fears and desires. When the hatred and the quest for vengeance stops, freedom can begin.  It is possible.  Because with God, all things are possible.

Peace,

SR



69 posted on 03/26/2015 9:15:24 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

We agree more than you think. A LOT more. I see slaves after the CW as a bunch of 6 year olds that were basically separated from their “parents” and told to “go make a life”.

Now, some of those “parents” were quite abusive, but the bottom line is that the suddenly freed slaves were not prepared to succeed.


70 posted on 03/26/2015 9:18:24 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: BenLurkin

Have you not noticed the number of mass mob attacks on malls and other places since December? In EVERY case, literally hundreds of blacks magically show up at once, and fights and looting break out, entirely by design. Orlando, Pittsburgh, Anaheim, KC, St Louis, Sacramento, Chicago, Oceola, and a dozen others, all in 4 months. That IS a trend. That IS Black Mob Violence. Stick your head in the sand all you want. That does not change the facts.


71 posted on 03/26/2015 9:22:13 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: roofgoat

What utter nonsense. My faith tells me otherwise. Does that mean ALL will? Of course not. Does it mean that all can? Why yes it does. Redemption is available to ALL.

Perhaps you should not be afraid of The Trutheither


72 posted on 03/26/2015 9:22:38 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: BenLurkin

If the “mob violence” is coming exclusively from blacks, and is very frequently directed exclusively at whites, I don’t see how it’s NOT the salient issue. This conservative approaches social problems from the perspective of reality. Obviously that reality makes you uncomfortable.


73 posted on 03/26/2015 9:23:11 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: bestintxas
Bottom line: The old white guy got charged with assault, but the black thug got his face mashed in with a baseball bat.

I would prefer the former.

74 posted on 03/26/2015 9:23:24 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Roman 13:12)
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To: roofgoat

I presume you mean with respect to Benlurkin


75 posted on 03/26/2015 9:24:24 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: fruser1
you’d see this (black) behavior in other countries

That's an interesting observation. I don't have a PhD in sociology (thank goodness) but here's my guess as to why you don't.

One, there has to be a large population for the problem to be noticed. Putting aside white thugs for a moment, let's say that 5% of blacks turn to the thug culture. That's a lot of black thugs, in America. But Europe just doesn't have that many blacks in the first place.

Two, those other countries don't have the legions of race-hustlers we have. Those folks act as problem multipliers, making things much worse.

But here's something to think about. Europe is now approaching a critical mass of muslims. And their mosques are full of religion-hustlers. So Europe will have it's own analogous problem. Only theirs will develop into something much worse, I think.

76 posted on 03/26/2015 9:24:57 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Leaning Right

The common thread is that sometimes, when people do bad things, they justify it w/an excuse. Per this thread, historical slavery is being used as an excuse. As you can see by the posts, many folks, myself included, don’t buy this.

The excuse is simply a diversion. To focus on the diversion and not the behavior is pretty absurd and a common propaganda tactic.

To say this occurred because of slavery only justifies this behavior. I highly doubt you would appreciate it if you got your butt kicked “because” of history.


77 posted on 03/26/2015 9:31:37 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1
historical slavery is being used as an excuse

Right, that is so very often the case. But I don't think that's the intention the of any FReeper, because such comments here are never followed by any silly reparations talk.

The excuse (history) is simply a diversion. To focus on the diversion and not the behavior is pretty absurd and a common propaganda tactic.

Again, I find merit in your argument. Many tyrants have cherry-picked historical facts to justify there actions. For example, Holder is quite good at that. But it would be wrong to simply not discuss history at all, for fear it will be used an excuse.

78 posted on 03/26/2015 9:44:51 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Nifster

yes, to him, not you


79 posted on 03/26/2015 9:48:10 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: BenLurkin

Race hate?...by whom?


80 posted on 03/26/2015 9:50:57 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '16)
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