Posted on 03/21/2015 9:30:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
I don’t care what they do or don’t believe. Neither does our legal system, as it shouldn’t.
If they break the law, prosecute and punish them.
Until then, ignore them.
I think importing large numbers of Muslims is bad policy. Those who are legal residents or, especially, citizens, have certain legal rights under our laws that must be honored. Among those are the right to be left alone until they break the law.
Getting together and playing court isn’t against the law. So leave them alone.
Not even close. The maximum penalty a Catholic canon law court can impose is excommunication from the faith. I'm fine with that and wish they would use it more often, especially with the pro-abortion politicians who use "their Catholic faith" as a fig leaf to counter what the church teaches.
AFAIK, this is not a legal case.
It’s a city council making a ass of itself.
The reason we know about it is that ignorant or foolish politicians are pandering to what they assume, perhaps rightly, are equally ignorant voters. Then demagogic writers jump in and blow it wildly out of proportion and get people all worried that sharia is about to be accepted as law in the USA.
And it simply isn’t true. That so many conservatives buy into these ignorant arguments frankly makes us look kind of foolish.
Talking to this koranimal is like talking to a rock. Why bother?
Are you listening Sheik Zippo? We don't care about sharia law. It doesn't affect us in any manner shape or form. If it conflicts with U.S. Law we will follow U.S. law.
The foundation of Sharia Law is anti human and antidemocratic. It is democracyphobic and has no place in a civilized society.
Accept our religions or pay a tax. Has an unbeliever tax been proposed yet? Just wait a few months. Or go hide in a Saddam Hussein hole somewhere.
So what exactly is the maximum penalty a sharia court in the US can impose?
“....If they sent you summons, would you feel compelled to attend the proceedings? ?..”
Not just “No”, but “H3ll NO”
What is your response to these statements by the group???
“...By their own website’s admission, if U.S. law conflicts with Sharia law, “we follow Sharia law.”
It also openly admitted separate rules for men and women in their proceedings, discriminating and humiliating women which is against the U.S. Constitution.
The Islamic Tribunal also openly declared that they hope will “set a precedence that will be emulated and duplicated throughout the country.” ....”
“Not just “No”, but “H3ll NO””
Well, then that means it’s voluntary.
I respectfully disagree,
Just because it is voluntary, if it breaks US law...they lose in the courts.
Lets say person A and person B have a disagreement. Sharia law awards person A the judgement and gives person A all of person Bs possessions and wife.
Do you really think US law wouldn’t override that decision?
The city won’t lose. Trust me.
Nobody has a right to private courts.
Half of the govt ones are illegitimate, we don’t need private courts making things worse.
Religious-driven or anything else.
Here’s an article about a Republic of Texas “court” sending out papers purporting to be legal summons.
Didn’t turn out well for them, though I think the government over-reacted. But if and when these local sharia courts start trying to pose as bodies with legal authority, then I suggest they be handled similarly.
No their courts are not. They encompass every aspect of their life. They don’t separate secular vs religious. It’s a tyrannical theocracy.
“It also openly admitted separate rules for men and women in their proceedings, discriminating and humiliating women which is against the U.S. Constitution.”
If a woman is a party to a case at the fake court and she volunteers to go, that is her choice.
Their rules have nothing to do with the Constitution.
Why would it need to be overridden? It has no more legal validity than the posts on this thread. It's merely some person's or group's opinion.
So what? They have freedom of speech to give their opinion. We have freedom to ignore it and tell them we think their opinion and their "law code" is really stupid.
“...By their own website’s admission, if U.S. law conflicts with Sharia law, “we follow Sharia law.”
Not voluntary if they get their way; look at what they said above.
This point -still- has not been answered directly by y’all.
I certainly like your optimistic view and outlook.
Even if I vehemently disagree with it.
To be fair, a Muslim woman is likely to get a lot of community and family pressure to accept sharia. But unless it crosses the line into criminal coercion, it’s simply not the business of the government.
Is there another link other than from a goofball kook site ?
I don’t want to give that site my business by clicking on it.
“Just because it is voluntary, if it breaks US law...they lose in the courts.”
It does not break any US laws.
It’s very simple. If and when they attempt to make it something more than voluntary, they’re likely to commit a crime.
At that point, prosecute them for their crimes.
In the meantime, these court proceedings have about as much legal validity as the proclamations of Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton
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