Posted on 03/21/2015 9:30:48 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
Excerpted from Mad World News: The first Islamic Sharia Court in the U.S. just got some very bad news, and Muslims are not happy.
In a close 5-4 vote, the city of Irving ruled to back the Texas state bill banning foreign law from the state. It basically would slam the door in their faces, preventing them from spreading Sharia throughout the country. Now they are accusing the city council of unfairly being targeted.
All four of the “voluntary” court’s lawyers were unlicensed in the state of Texas, a third degree felony. Mayor Beth Van Duyne received several phone calls on the matter. It seems that the Islamic Tribunal not only was unlicensed, but they failed to notify the city of their illegal court being operated in city limits. She promised to get to the bottom of it, and she did.
By their own website’s admission, if U.S. law conflicts with Sharia law, “we follow Sharia law.” It also openly admitted separate rules for men and women in their proceedings, discriminating and humiliating women which is against the U.S. Constitution. The Islamic Tribunal also openly declared that they hope will “set a precedence that will be emulated and duplicated throughout the country.”
The more the mayor looked into it, the more it was apparent that they were attempting to establish a foothold using her city. She made a public Facebook post stating that she would back the new Texas law. She states that it was apparent that Zia Sheikh, imam at the Islamic Center of Irving, and the other Imams were “bypassing American courts” to make rulings under Sharia. Sheikh demanded an apology and wanted her Facebook post removed, which stated she would “fight with every fiber of my being” if the group was violating basic rights.
heikh says he just “asked her to clarify a statement … which seemed very Islamophobic.”
“She flat-out refused,” he said. “She said, ‘My statement wasn’t inflammatory in any way, shape or form.’” (Dallas Morning News)
Her office then asked for them to support the American Laws for American Courts bill and to abide by the Constitution. Sheikh instead flew off the handle.
“We don’t care about the bill,” Sheikh said. “It’s not going to affect us in any way, shape or form. The bottom line is the foundation of this bill is anti-Islamic.” (Dallas Morning News)
The meeting was filled by Muslims from the Council for American-Islamic Relations, a known terrorist organization. They even tried to paint the vote as Islamaphobia and bigotry.
“This continues efforts by elected officials who seek to score points with their voting base by demonizing Muslims,” Alia Salem, who directs the North Texas chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told the City Council before Thursday’s vote. She said it had a choice between “diversity” and “hatred, fear and bigotry.” (Dallas Morning News)
The state bill doesn’t even mention Muslims or Islam. It states no specific foreign law. Keep reading
I don’t care what they do or don’t believe. Neither does our legal system, as it shouldn’t.
If they break the law, prosecute and punish them.
Until then, ignore them.
I think importing large numbers of Muslims is bad policy. Those who are legal residents or, especially, citizens, have certain legal rights under our laws that must be honored. Among those are the right to be left alone until they break the law.
Getting together and playing court isn’t against the law. So leave them alone.
Not even close. The maximum penalty a Catholic canon law court can impose is excommunication from the faith. I'm fine with that and wish they would use it more often, especially with the pro-abortion politicians who use "their Catholic faith" as a fig leaf to counter what the church teaches.
AFAIK, this is not a legal case.
It’s a city council making a ass of itself.
The reason we know about it is that ignorant or foolish politicians are pandering to what they assume, perhaps rightly, are equally ignorant voters. Then demagogic writers jump in and blow it wildly out of proportion and get people all worried that sharia is about to be accepted as law in the USA.
And it simply isn’t true. That so many conservatives buy into these ignorant arguments frankly makes us look kind of foolish.
Talking to this koranimal is like talking to a rock. Why bother?
Are you listening Sheik Zippo? We don't care about sharia law. It doesn't affect us in any manner shape or form. If it conflicts with U.S. Law we will follow U.S. law.
The foundation of Sharia Law is anti human and antidemocratic. It is democracyphobic and has no place in a civilized society.
Accept our religions or pay a tax. Has an unbeliever tax been proposed yet? Just wait a few months. Or go hide in a Saddam Hussein hole somewhere.
So what exactly is the maximum penalty a sharia court in the US can impose?
“....If they sent you summons, would you feel compelled to attend the proceedings? ?..”
Not just “No”, but “H3ll NO”
What is your response to these statements by the group???
“...By their own website’s admission, if U.S. law conflicts with Sharia law, “we follow Sharia law.”
It also openly admitted separate rules for men and women in their proceedings, discriminating and humiliating women which is against the U.S. Constitution.
The Islamic Tribunal also openly declared that they hope will “set a precedence that will be emulated and duplicated throughout the country.” ....”
“Not just “No”, but “H3ll NO””
Well, then that means it’s voluntary.
I respectfully disagree,
Just because it is voluntary, if it breaks US law...they lose in the courts.
Lets say person A and person B have a disagreement. Sharia law awards person A the judgement and gives person A all of person Bs possessions and wife.
Do you really think US law wouldn’t override that decision?
The city won’t lose. Trust me.
Nobody has a right to private courts.
Half of the govt ones are illegitimate, we don’t need private courts making things worse.
Religious-driven or anything else.
Here’s an article about a Republic of Texas “court” sending out papers purporting to be legal summons.
Didn’t turn out well for them, though I think the government over-reacted. But if and when these local sharia courts start trying to pose as bodies with legal authority, then I suggest they be handled similarly.
No their courts are not. They encompass every aspect of their life. They don’t separate secular vs religious. It’s a tyrannical theocracy.
“It also openly admitted separate rules for men and women in their proceedings, discriminating and humiliating women which is against the U.S. Constitution.”
If a woman is a party to a case at the fake court and she volunteers to go, that is her choice.
Their rules have nothing to do with the Constitution.
Why would it need to be overridden? It has no more legal validity than the posts on this thread. It's merely some person's or group's opinion.
So what? They have freedom of speech to give their opinion. We have freedom to ignore it and tell them we think their opinion and their "law code" is really stupid.
“...By their own website’s admission, if U.S. law conflicts with Sharia law, “we follow Sharia law.”
Not voluntary if they get their way; look at what they said above.
This point -still- has not been answered directly by y’all.
I certainly like your optimistic view and outlook.
Even if I vehemently disagree with it.
To be fair, a Muslim woman is likely to get a lot of community and family pressure to accept sharia. But unless it crosses the line into criminal coercion, it’s simply not the business of the government.
Is there another link other than from a goofball kook site ?
I don’t want to give that site my business by clicking on it.
“Just because it is voluntary, if it breaks US law...they lose in the courts.”
It does not break any US laws.
It’s very simple. If and when they attempt to make it something more than voluntary, they’re likely to commit a crime.
At that point, prosecute them for their crimes.
In the meantime, these court proceedings have about as much legal validity as the proclamations of Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton
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