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Weedkiller alert over cancer link (GMO)
Telegraph UK ^ | March 21, 2015 | Camilla Turner

Posted on 03/21/2015 9:23:30 AM PDT by opentalk

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To: opentalk

“The same symptoms are now reported by thousands of farm workers from handling Bt cotton throughout India.¹² “

Since the Bt is inside the cell, how does handling it cause flu-symptoms????


101 posted on 03/22/2015 3:35:47 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthstarMom

“After seeing how Monsanto has sued farmers who never bought their seed, but had fields that were inadvertently pollinated by their neighbor’s Monsanto crops, I promptly became anti-Monsanto and pro-small farmer.”

Internet myth busted:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/10/18/163034053/top-five-myths-of-genetically-modified-seeds-busted

‘But as far as I can tell, Monsanto has never sued anybody over trace amounts of GMOs that were introduced into fields simply through cross-pollination. (The company asserts, in fact, that it will pay to remove any of its GMOs from fields where they don’t belong.) If you know of any case where this actually happened, please let me know.’


102 posted on 03/22/2015 3:57:54 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthstarMom

“After seeing how Monsanto has sued farmers who never bought their seed, but had fields that were inadvertently pollinated by their neighbor’s Monsanto crops, I promptly became anti-Monsanto and pro-small farmer.”

Amazing. You go anti because you read something somewhere on the internet. I hope you teach your kids better than that ...

http://www.monsanto.com/food-inc/pages/faqs.aspx

‘It is patently false that Monsanto sues farmers for the accidental presence of our technology in their crops. This misperception likely began with Percy Schmeiser, who was brought to court in Canada by Monsanto for illegally saving Roundup Ready® canola seed. Mr. Schmeiser claims to this day the presence of Monsanto technology in his fields was accidental, even though three separate court decisions, including one by the Canadian Supreme Court, concluded his claims were false. A review of the evidence presented in court makes it very clear Mr. Schmeiser’s claims are not credible’


103 posted on 03/22/2015 4:04:26 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
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No one knows why the animals refuse GMOs, but according to a 2009 statement by the American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM), when lab animals do eat GM feed, it’s not pretty. 

“Several animal studies indicate serious health risks associated with GM food,” says the AAEM policy paper, which specifically cited infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system, among the impacts of eating GMOs. “There is more than a casual association between GM foods and adverse health effects,” they wrote.  “There is causation…”

...In an Andhra Pradesh village, buffalo grazed on cotton plants for eight years without incident.  On January 3rd, 2008, 13 buffalo grazed on Bt cotton plants for the first time.  All died within three days.¹ 

Bt corn is also implicated in the deaths of cows in Germany, and horses, water buffaloes, and chickens in The Philippines.²In lab studies, twice the number of chickens fed Liberty Link corn died;  7 of 40 rats fed a GM tomato died within two weeks.²¹  Those rats had refused to eat the tomato and had to be force fed.

104 posted on 03/22/2015 4:50:15 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: RedWhiteBlue

In the run of the mill statistics of life span it is usually a general number with all ages averaged. MY point is that in not breaking down the numbers by how many people lived to be older than 5, what is the difference?


105 posted on 03/22/2015 7:13:09 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: TexasGator

Then I guess I have had people (farmers) lie to my face and in person. Nothing I have read on the internet has influenced my views on GMOs, you are completely wrong in your assumptions about where I find my information.

I have a degree in Biology, worked in an area that is heavily agricultural. In that role I worked with several farmers. My info on farmers affected came from them. My views on the effects of GMOs is based on information from the doctors I know and the data that was given to me from them. With my background I am very skeptical of broad claims until I read the evidence (real evidence with data) from both sides.

If you work for Monsanto, I am sorry to have offended you so deeply. If you are a farmer, I am on your side.

I am glad no one forces you to work in a position that conflicts with your beliefs and that you are allowed decide for yourself what is and is not healthy for you. I’m thankful that I have that freedom as well.

Good Luck and God Bless.


106 posted on 03/22/2015 9:21:22 PM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: NorthstarMom

“Nothing I have read on the internet has influenced my views on GMOs, you are completely wrong in your assumptions about where I find my information.”

The ONLY place the false information you referenced is, is on the internet.


107 posted on 03/23/2015 7:50:34 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: opentalk

“No one knows why the animals refuse GMOs, but according to a 2009 statement by the American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM), when lab animals do eat GM feed, it’s not pretty. “

I am confused. You say animals won’t eat gmo foods but you cite studies where they eat gmo foods.


108 posted on 03/23/2015 7:51:50 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: opentalk

“...In an Andhra Pradesh village, buffalo grazed on cotton plants for eight years without incident. On January 3rd, 2008, 13 buffalo grazed on Bt cotton plants for the first time. All died within three days.¹ “

How come the millions of animals eating bt crops everyday are not falling dead? HuH?


109 posted on 03/23/2015 8:04:59 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: opentalk

” 7 of 40 rats fed a GM tomato died within two weeks.²¹ Those rats had refused to eat the tomato and had to be force fed. “

Source please ...


110 posted on 03/23/2015 8:08:28 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthstarMom

“Then I guess I have had people (farmers) lie to my face and in person.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonentine/2014/09/17/the-debate-about-gmo-safety-is-over-thanks-to-a-new-trillion-meal-study/

The field data represented more than 100 billion animals covering a period before 1996 when animal feed was 100% non-GMO, and after its introduction when it jumped to 90% and more. The documentation included the records of animals examined pre and post mortem, as ill cattle cannot be approved for meat.

What did they find? That GM feed is safe and nutritionally equivalent to non-GMO feed. There was no indication of any unusual trends in the health of animals since 1996 when GMO crops were first harvested. Considering the size of the dataset, it can reasonably be said that the debate over the impact of GE feed on animal health is closed: there is zero extraordinary impact.


111 posted on 03/23/2015 8:12:30 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: opentalk

“but according to a 2009 statement by the American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM)”

LOL! AAEM. Also touts the dangers of vaccines and WiFi.


112 posted on 03/23/2015 8:13:47 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

No, it’s not. You are the one who has used blog links to back up your point, not I. If I knew where to find info on the internet to back up my view, I would have included the links in my comments. Having friends who have access to medical and science journals has allowed me to read information from somewhere other than the internet.

You’ve been mocking and scornful in trying to prove my views wrong and get me to change. I’ve made no attempt to change your views, I’ve just been stating what has shaped them.

I have no idea why a stranger’s view on the best way to feed her family bothers you so much. I couldn’t care less about what your family eats.

Live how you want to live, enjoy life to the fullest; that’s what I do every. I’m off to enjoy the many blessings that God has given me.


113 posted on 03/23/2015 8:21:57 AM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: NorthstarMom

“You’ve been mocking and scornful in trying to prove my views wrong and get me to change”

When you post blatantly false information you have gotten off the internet and I have sourced references showing your error and you will still not admit it, you deserved to be mocked.


114 posted on 03/23/2015 8:24:12 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthstarMom

“I have no idea why a stranger’s view on the best way to feed her family bothers you so much.”

I have made NO comment on how you feed your family.


115 posted on 03/23/2015 8:25:18 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthstarMom

“You are the one who has used blog links to back up your point, not I. If I knew where to find info on the internet to back up my view, I would have included the links in my comments.”

No. I have used reputable sources.


116 posted on 03/23/2015 8:26:33 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthstarMom

“With my background I am very skeptical of broad claims until I read the evidence (real evidence with data) from both sides.”

But you said you became anti-Mosanto after reading some false information passed around without EVER bothering to research the truth.

Even after I posted the ‘other side’ you still refuse to admit your error.


117 posted on 03/23/2015 8:28:13 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: NorthstarMom

” After seeing how Monsanto has sued farmers who never bought their seed, but had fields that were inadvertently pollinated by their neighbor’s Monsanto crops, I promptly became anti-Monsanto and pro-small farmer.”

Let me properly phrase this to represent your actual position:

’ After reading on the internet how Monsanto has sued farmers who never bought their seed, but had fields that were inadvertently pollinated by their neighbor’s Monsanto crops, I promptly became anti-Monsanto and pro-small farmer and never bothered to do any research on the actual story.’


118 posted on 03/23/2015 8:30:25 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

1) NPR food blog

2) Cracked.com

3) business magazine

4) the company itself

Yep, looks like reputable, unbiased science research sites to me.

Good bye & good luck.


119 posted on 03/23/2015 8:43:56 AM PDT by NorthstarMom
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To: NorthstarMom

“1) NPR food blog”

The article I linked contains links to verifiable sources that support his article.


120 posted on 03/23/2015 8:48:39 AM PDT by TexasGator
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