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Twin crash prompts Turkey to order RF-4E retirement
flightglobal.com ^ | 03/11/2015 | TOLGA OZBEK

Posted on 03/11/2015 10:59:35 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

After the latest incident involving McDonnell Douglas RF-4E/TMs, in which four crew members were killed when two of the aircraft crashed in southeast Turkey, the nation has decided to retire the type after a 35-year service life.

On 24 February, two RF-4Es crashed during an approach for landing. According to information released by the Turkish air force, the aircraft were flying in cloud during the night-time approach. The crash area was about 7.5nm (14km) from the runway at Malatya/Erhac air base. An F-4E was also lost in Konya province on 5 March.

Turkey received its first batch of RF-4Es in 1980, followed by 32 ex-German air force examples in 1993. Between 2009 and 2011, 16 of the aircraft were modernised by the air force's 1st Supply & Maintenance Centre, bringing them up to the RF-4E/TM standard.

Since the modernisation activity was completed, a total of five RF-4Es have been lost, including one which was shot down in international airspace by a Syrian surface-to-air missile in 2012. Both crew members died in the incident.

In the wake of the 24 February crash, the air force has announced that its remaining eight operational RF-4E/TMs will be retired on 12 March. The type's last flight will be performed with the service's commander, Gen Akin Ozturk, on board.

Turkish air force

Turkey plans to replace the RF-4E's capabilities with Lockheed Martin F-16s carrying UTC Aerospace Systems DB-110 digital reconnaissance pods. Three of the sensors have been received so far for use by 142 Sqn, located at Akinci/Ankara air base.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; rf4e; tuaf; turkey

1 posted on 03/11/2015 10:59:35 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Soon to be in ISIS hands..


2 posted on 03/11/2015 11:04:58 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Certified Islamophobe..)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Why are they blaming the plane?


3 posted on 03/11/2015 11:06:34 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
Why are they blaming the plane?

Good question. When TWO planes crash at the same time, I assume they collided. How do you blame the plane for that?

4 posted on 03/11/2015 11:12:37 AM PDT by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That had to be the cleanest F-4 I’ve ever seen.


5 posted on 03/11/2015 11:14:05 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Sounds like pilot error to me.


6 posted on 03/11/2015 11:14:52 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Moonman62; ZOOKER

I don’t think they are blaming the plane, but with only 8 left of those 35 year olds planes, it is probably time to adopt a new platform for current use.


7 posted on 03/11/2015 11:22:21 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

Good point. At some point you have too few for an operational capability. They have lots of great F-16s and apparently are acquiring some recon pods. It makes more sense to have a few brand new pods that all work the same instead of a mix of pods and some a few F-4s’


8 posted on 03/11/2015 11:46:33 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The Iranians probably need the parts.


9 posted on 03/11/2015 11:54:04 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: TalonDJ

Lets just say they didn’t replace them at all. Just retired them. How would Turkey or the region really be any less safe? They are as much of a menace as they have ever been an ally. Zero sum game in my opinion.

They threaten Israel, support ISIS, spar with Greece, are more islamist by the day, and seriously hindered our invasion of Iraq.

Any Turkish jet is a potential menace.


10 posted on 03/11/2015 11:59:32 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: DesertRhino

You do realize that Turkey constructed around 250 F-16s, and will be a manufacturer of the F-35?


11 posted on 03/11/2015 12:34:45 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

As an old F-4 driver, who is still operating them, Not the rece version I mean fighter/interceptor????


12 posted on 03/11/2015 12:49:22 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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