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Walker, Cruz, Bush and the Iowa Crucible [READ THIS]
Commentary Magazine ^ | March 8, 2015 | Jonathan S. Tobin

Posted on 03/08/2015 6:45:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

No way is Walker a proven conservative.


21 posted on 03/08/2015 7:48:36 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne
I don't have to explain anything to you. I live in WI and I was about to move until Walker got elected. He has completely turned this state around and will do the same in Washington.

If you want to believe journalists who refuse to do their jobs and report the whole story, that's your problem.

22 posted on 03/08/2015 7:52:57 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll be voting for Cruz, period.


23 posted on 03/08/2015 8:02:54 PM PDT by Gator113 (Cruz, Lee, and Sessions speak for me.... most anyone else is just noise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good for Cruz!

Personally, I don’t think it will cost him Iowa either. The world needs more food, not more ethanol. Iowa farmers are smart enough to figure that out.


24 posted on 03/08/2015 8:03:00 PM PDT by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t think this will split the base, I think the two of them will wind up as running mates. The only question is, who leads the ticket. Obviously I’d prefer Cruz at the top, the Walker partisans would prefer him at the top. But they aren’t going to go after each other hard because they are going to have an 8 year partnership. I believe.


25 posted on 03/08/2015 8:03:14 PM PDT by marron
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

How exactly is he going to turn things around?

I don’t ever believe journalists. And I never trust politicians until I see proof. And your liberal argument style nastiness simply does not substitute for facts

You can think whatever you want I don’t care Walker has not proved anything to me so I’m calling out the statement.

You can go on bloviating or you can attempt to prove your statement

I’m just saying no sale. That’s all


26 posted on 03/08/2015 8:03:58 PM PDT by stanne
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I have grass-stains on my keyboard from supporting Conservative-principled Ted Cruz.

I am a common-man with the intense desire to campaign for an American leader like Ronald Reagan showed himself to be.

I am a part of the grassroots of America that yearns to be free from the obamanation, from the establishment, from the Chamber of Amnesty, from Satan's grip on America's heart.

I now fight to win, to elect a man like Ted Cruz to save our beaten-down nation.

The Reigniting of the Miracle of America will start when we Conservatives give voice once again to the grassroots movement of politics!

27 posted on 03/08/2015 8:05:33 PM PDT by WIBamian (Cruz for President. Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions for Vice-President. True conservative heroes!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I lived in WI, I voted for Walker, I did the Tea Party rallies in 2011, but then one of the reasons I decided to move was because Walker didn't try to steer the state to the Right after he was elected Governor. He stayed as a moderate-forward-leaning politician, probably to appeal better to those voters craving central control from the Capitol.

You already know this, but others might not: WI's motto is 'Forward'. MSNBC's tagline is 'Lean Forward'. How ironic, huh?

BTW, Bama's motto is "We Dare To Defend Our Rights". And guess what? Bama is now righteous Red and to the Right.

28 posted on 03/08/2015 8:17:13 PM PDT by WIBamian (Cruz for President. Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions for Vice-President. True conservative heroes!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THis issue matters to agribusinessmen and farmers. It does not matter to the vast majority of voters, nor to any of those who don’t follow politics (LIVs) who will show up to vote in 2016 based on TV ad soundbites.


29 posted on 03/08/2015 8:19:15 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Zactly.

Like Jeffery Toobin is our “friend”. Hardly. He’s quoting Politico by the second paragraph, already, like they are some bastion of analysis and authority on conservatism.

We can expect to be, each of us, put through the meat slicer for the next two years. The Left saw how we devoured each other over the last primary months that caused the regurgitation of RomneyAnn as our nominee.


30 posted on 03/08/2015 8:37:29 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Very true. good points


31 posted on 03/08/2015 8:43:45 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegaly imposed socialist net neutrality on the Internet to ruin it)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I agree. Walker is the only won who actually has done anything against the democrats/media complex and won.

He’s a proven governor and leader that has defeated socialism/democrats time and time again.

Walker as president would restore the free market, freedom and prosperity in America


32 posted on 03/08/2015 8:47:22 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegaly imposed socialist net neutrality on the Internet to ruin it)
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To: RitaOK

Yes the liberal news media plant seeds into conservatives like this ethanol bs . It’s meant to get the purists going saying Walker’s not pure . And it’s also meant to divide us. see who the liberal news media attack and that’s who they fear and who we should support.


33 posted on 03/08/2015 8:49:40 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegaly imposed socialist net neutrality on the Internet to ruin it)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
there is a case to be made that what voters want is principle rather than pandering.

They want principle until their own ox is being gored. Ted Cruz maybe would rather be right than president, like Henry Clay, but history remembers those who were presidents.

34 posted on 03/08/2015 8:59:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Hahahaha! You guys kill me. You howl about “RINOs” and “squishes” until we get near an election, and all of a sudden, any candidate that can fake conservatism or talk a good game is “Reaganesque” and “electable.”


35 posted on 03/08/2015 9:02:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

> “It is just as much a given that Senator Ted Cruz is not regarded as likely to win the nomination.”

Iowa is never a predictor. Iowa just doesn’t matter.


36 posted on 03/08/2015 9:08:24 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: Hostage

It served as a predictor just once that I’m aware of on the Republican side: 1980.


37 posted on 03/08/2015 9:10:31 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Mother Mary

The media Beltway types like Tobin are scared to death of Senator Cruz. They will bad mouth him every chance they get.

And Walker will be used by the media to suppress sentiment for Cruz. And once Walker is anointed, they will turn on him.


38 posted on 03/08/2015 9:11:42 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Statistically not significant.

Reagan was an outlier. He turned electoral politics on its head.


39 posted on 03/08/2015 9:12:55 PM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Are you talking about Walker?

Scott Walker has actually defeated socialism/democrats and the media in a liberal state several times on several issues and several elections. Walker has done conservative things, and passed conservative policies. Actions meant everything,words mean NOTHING.


40 posted on 03/08/2015 9:18:05 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama illegaly imposed socialist net neutrality on the Internet to ruin it)
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