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Being Gay Not a Choice: Science Contradicts Ben Carson
MSN News ^ | March 7, 2015 | Tia Ghose

Posted on 03/07/2015 11:17:39 AM PST by detective

Ben Carson, a retired neurosurgeon and presidential hopeful, recently apologized for a statement in which he said being gay is "absolutely" a choice.

In an interview on CNN, the potential 2016 Republican presidential candidate commented that "a lot of people who go into prison, go into prison straight, and when they come out they're gay, so did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; election2016; homosexualagenda; homosexuals
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To: Perdogg
Has anyone actually defined what being a homosexual means?

Yes, Gore Vidal did.

81 posted on 03/07/2015 12:37:09 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: Texas Eagle
Then how do you explain NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio’s wife. She used to be a lesbian. Wha’ happened?

Back in my younger days, I had a girlfriend who was bi. She could enjoy sex with either a guy or another girl. She could thus choose to be either exclusively straight or exclusively lesbian. I also had a male friend who was bi.

I think there is a spectrum, where those at one end have zero ability to be aroused by someone of the same sex, and at the other end zero ability to be aroused by the opposite sex. Those somewhere in the middle can choose either way.

82 posted on 03/07/2015 12:39:30 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: detective

That’s the thing, there is no test to conclusively predict who will turn out what. That is what science is supposed to do. IMHO, they don’t want a test because that would mean people can treat the condition if they know the exact gene and how it manifests, so even if true, science will never, for political purposes ever bother finding or revealing what the so-called gene is. However, genetics is not an excuse for behavior. For instance, maybe I am genetically programmed to feel attracted to women in general, but it doesn’t make me cheating on my wife not a sin.


83 posted on 03/07/2015 12:40:18 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: PapaBear3625

“You either s... d... or you do not s... d... there is no in-between.” - Andrew Dice Clay


84 posted on 03/07/2015 12:41:38 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Only problem is this: we can’t test who is genuinely homosexual and who isn’t. Anyone who knew Bill De Blassio’s wife as a lesbian had no way of predicting she would end up with Bill, they can claim it after the fact, but that doesn’t count.


85 posted on 03/07/2015 12:42:16 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: Vermont Lt
When there was nothing else I liked eating,

What? You mean like tripe, tongue and scrapple? Haggis?

What some man does with his penis (except on children of course) in their own bedroom is none of my business.

Well why else do you think people are all wound up about these disease-ridden, boy-raping whackjobs?

86 posted on 03/07/2015 12:42:49 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: PapaBear3625

Most of the girls I met must have been bi......I’d ask them for sex and they said, “Bye.”

Thanks, I’ll be here all week,


87 posted on 03/07/2015 12:43:14 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: chris37
I also do not care what people do in their bedrooms. I am not going to go out and be mean to gay people.

You could at least ask them if they are a pederast.

88 posted on 03/07/2015 12:47:45 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: detective
While waiting in line to buy tickets a few years ago I listened to a cell phone conversation (I could not have avoided hearing without giving up my place in line) . Speaking was a young 30ish woman who was talking about the “choice” she made in being gay.

She said she regretted her choice because it had not brought her anything except grief. It was a heart breaking conversation for me to overhear. I wish I had moved to the back of the line.

89 posted on 03/07/2015 12:49:02 PM PST by Ditter
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To: detective
In a large herd of cattle, some miniscule percentage will exhibit "same sex attraction," so yeah, one might suppose that some humans are "born" that way, too.

Some people are "born" baseball players, or car salesmen. However, most good salesmen and good ball players got that way because they (a) liked it, (b) practiced diligently, or as it turns out (c) were made to practice it diligently. BTW, (d) they are also rewarded for it!

Could be the same with homosexuals.

90 posted on 03/07/2015 12:50:42 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama kept his promises. Has your Republican Congressman done the same?)
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To: fella
The politically correct term is not "sexually molested" but the much nicer sounding "Recruited".

But the honest term is "raped".

91 posted on 03/07/2015 12:52:32 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: detective

If it were an immutable genetic setting that was impossible to change, identical twins would both be gay, if one of them was.

In reality it’s about half. Therefore it is NOT immutable.


92 posted on 03/07/2015 12:55:09 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: detective
In a large herd of cattle, some miniscule percentage will exhibit "same sex attraction," so yeah, one might suppose that some humans are "born" that way, too.

Some people are "born" baseball players, or car salesmen. However, most good salesmen and good ball players got that way because they (a) liked it, (b) practiced diligently, or as it turns out (c) were made to practice it diligently. BTW, (d) they are also rewarded for it!

Could be the same with homosexuals.

93 posted on 03/07/2015 12:57:29 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Obama kept his promises. Has your Republican Congressman done the same?)
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To: Vermont Lt
The world is going to hell, and we are getting “worked up” over this stupid stuff.

This is not stupid stuff, It is what happens when you reject God.

Rom 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

Rom 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Rom 1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Rom 1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Rom 1:31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Rom 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

94 posted on 03/07/2015 12:58:07 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. RIH-GOP)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It has ranged from 20 percent to 50 percent depending on which twin study you are referring to. There’s definitely not 100 percent genetic determinism. There’s definitely some element of nurture involved.


95 posted on 03/07/2015 12:59:18 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: fella

Recruited is the word that pops in my head as I’ve read all the previous posts.

Recruit,Recruit,Recruit !

Was a chant by NAMBLA in years past.


96 posted on 03/07/2015 1:08:26 PM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Morpheus2009

Gore Vidal had an interesting take on this. Speaking from his own experience, he didn’t believe there was any such thing as a homosexual. He said it was something he did, not something he was.

He was saying that back in the 70s. He’d have to be re-educated if he were alive and saying those things today.


97 posted on 03/07/2015 1:18:28 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: detective

Tell it to Chirlayne McCray (Mrs. Comrade mayor DeBloodio.)


98 posted on 03/07/2015 1:44:17 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Texas Eagle

“so did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question.”

Yeh its called gang rape. I don’t think 4 guys holding you down is a choice. :-)


99 posted on 03/07/2015 1:49:28 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
"But the honest term is "raped"."

That's the truth and along with violence and/or threats of violence.

100 posted on 03/07/2015 1:52:45 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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