Posted on 03/07/2015 12:44:26 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
Russian secret services may have executed the troops suspected of shooting down Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, say sources involved in the investigation of the crash over eastern Ukraine. The Dutch-led probe is leaning towards a conclusion that a BUK missile fired from rebel-held territory downed the Boeing 777, killing all 298 on board. And it is highly likely the aircraft was shot out of the sky by Russian military personnel, according to a report by the Netherlands' state broadcaster NOS, citing anonymous sources in the police and the group of investigators working on the probe into the plane's loss.
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Also the computers, cell phones etc. of investigators were apparently hacked as well. The title of the article which mentions this was too big to fit on FR, so I cut it off short. Read link for more details.
I have little doubt of that. Putin needs doubt to remain where the truth can never be exposed. The only way to make sure - remove the loose ends.
Families of Germans who were on the plane are suing the Ukrainian government and not Russia.
Such evidence was refuted a long time ago, and exists only within Russian media, which, when it isn't lying about Ukraine, has UFO guys and Alex Jones on the air accusing the United States of being behind Al-Qaeda and the 9/11 terrorist attacks. And I'm not being hyperbolic.
Putin can’t cover up the bodies of dead soldiers being sent to their families in Russia from Ukraine. One mother along with the death certificate also had a document allowing the body to be transported across the border.
Guano.
The evidence is that it was shot down by a BUK, probably supplied by Russia, and probably fired by Ukrainian separatists, commanded by Igor Strelkov (pictured below), who thought they were shooting down a military transport belonging to Kiev.
If Ukrainian ATC was involved, we have yet to hear the evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3SaF-bfhes
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/07/first-examination-malaysian-mh-17-cockpit-photo-shows-ukrainian-government-shot-plane.html
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cef_1407790178
http://www.globalresearch.ca/german-pilot-speaks-out-shocking-analysis-of-the-shooting-down-of-malaysian-mh17/5394111
http://www.globalresearch.ca/malaysian-mainstream-media-mh17-was-downed-by-a-military-aircraft-cannon-fire-from-fighter-jet/5395134
etc. etc. etc.....
Your first problem was listening to a guy on You Tube who sounds like he just got out of puberty. I didn't bother to look at the rest after that. Responding to that clown, BUK missiles by the way explode in proximity to their targets and shred them with material, such as steal balls. It's not a direct impact. The big difference between that an a gun is that the damage is catastrophic, tearing most if the plane apart, which is what we saw. Furthermore, the SU25 is physically incapable of doing what the Russians claim it was doing. It's a ground attack plane.
That is, physically incapable of it UNLESS air traffic controllers on the same team had vectored the target craft into some sort of a killing bottle and THEN put the 25 straight down on top of it.....
Okay, "straight down on top of it." The closest the SU25 can get with a full combat load is 17,000 feet from the airliner while being directly below it. It's combat ceiling is 16,000 feet with the combat load. The airliner was at 33,000 feet. The only way it can go higher is if it's stripped of everything. In which case the closest it can get is still 10,000 feet away, unless they pick up speed and use momentum to fly a little higher for a short period of time, but then, unless they're directly below it, aiming straight freaking up, they're still too far. Oh, and they don't have a combat load. Next, the airliner is moving twice as fast as the SU25.
That's a whole lot of freakin trouble to shoot down an airliner.
Meanwhile the Russkies were releasing tweets and photographs thumping their chest at their latest victim on their social media. Russian state controlled media was first on the scene too. Afterwards they about-faced. Started denying everything. And even released conspiracy theories that the plane was filled with people who were already dead. Oh, and IP addresses from Russia engaged in a Wikipedia editing war trying to increase the speed and altitude of the SU25.
Whaddya think is the most likely answer of "who did it"?
If you believe this, I have a deed for an Imperialist bridge to sell you, which I will then confiscate before liquidating you for being a capitalist pig.
In Russia, when they say you are fired, you’d better have believe it!!!
“Three can keep a secret, if two are dead.”
—old Russian proverb
“... had to live in the real world...” LOL!
Every reference you provide is straight out of cloud cookoo land. Hard to take your protestations of envy of people living in dream worlds when you yourself are a denizen of one - one about as far from reality as it is possible to get.
I saw that as well when it happened, and questioned Wiki. Silence.
Was that the SU-25 that is incapable of flying at the altitude MH17 was traveling?
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