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ATF pushes bullet ban, threatens top-selling AR-15 rifle
Fox News ^ | February 27, 2015 | Paul Bedard / ·Washington Examiner

Posted on 02/27/2015 7:13:20 AM PST by WhiskeyX

It’s starting.

As promised, President Obama is using executive actions to impose gun control on the nation, targeting the top-selling rifle in the country, the AR-15 style semi-automatic, with a ban on one of the most-used AR bullets by sportsmen and target shooters.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives this month revealed that it is proposing to put the ban on 5.56mm ammo on a fast track, immediately driving up the price of the bullets and prompting retailers, including the huge outdoors company Cabela’s, to urge sportsmen to urge Congress to stop the president.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; ar15; atf; banglist; firearm; govtabuse; guns; obama; tyranny
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To: NFHale

This ban can easily be reversed. Most of the other things the Zero has done and will do won’t be so easy.


41 posted on 02/27/2015 8:01:11 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: HLPhat

Check it out later.


42 posted on 02/27/2015 8:03:56 AM PST by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: WhiskeyX

The favorite Ammo of Terrorists is not affected 7.62x39 ?


43 posted on 02/27/2015 8:05:26 AM PST by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Revelation 911

Yeh, just change it to 222 or 224 or 555 or 557.


44 posted on 02/27/2015 8:31:37 AM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Saw a guy leaving Dick’s yesterday with 2 ammo cans of federal ball - 420 rds @ $209 ($.50 ea)..panic buying will have all gone by today I bet...


45 posted on 02/27/2015 8:34:42 AM PST by databoss
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To: backwoods-engineer

The ammo is still everywhere, although the cost per round jumped up 4-5 cents. Try AmmoSeek.


46 posted on 02/27/2015 8:35:26 AM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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47 posted on 02/27/2015 9:05:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Revelation 911

“it would be curious to see if this spawns any new variants chambered in odd calibers...”

Well, right now today you can buy an AR-15 chambered for at least three other rounds none of which require anything but a barrel change. they are:
.300AAC, .458 SOCOM and 6.8mm SPC. They all essentially utilize a reworked .223 case and they have OA length equal to the .223 so they work in all the magazines. The likely outcome here (thinking that the dickless GOPE don’t do anything) is that the mfr’s will crank up the 55 grain production since the brass is the same. Shouldn’t really affect supply as I see it.


48 posted on 02/27/2015 9:11:48 AM PST by vette6387
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To: backwoods-engineer

Buying panic is a good thing. I like to think of all the ammunition flying off the shelves into free men’s hands. We should have a good panic at least once a year.


49 posted on 02/27/2015 9:44:11 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: AppyPappy

I don’t care who you are, that’s some funny sh!t right there.

All kidding aside, when the 2nd A is needed, those AP rounds will as well. JBTs don’t come around unprotected and unarmed...nor lonely.


50 posted on 02/27/2015 9:55:11 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73; MPJackal
>> It’s an “armor piercing round”. You can shoot through an elementary school with it. I’ve seen one round blow up a school bus full of special needs kids. Why does anyone need a special needs school bus killer bullet?
>
> I don’t care who you are, that’s some funny sh!t right there.

What, no mention of Tremors? (Because that's why you need a school-bus killing round.)

51 posted on 02/27/2015 10:16:14 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
62 grain steel tip (M855A1) has been illegal since introduced.

This is going after M855 which has a mild steel core and can penetrate an aluminum soft drink can at 1000 inches.

Oddly enough, prices on-line seem to be holding steady. Shelves are full in local stores.

52 posted on 02/27/2015 10:19:39 AM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I used to have about 10K of 556 but unfortunately they were on my boat with my firearms at the time of the capsize. Were it not for the current and tide, probably augmented by global warming, I could probably find at least the firearms but alas they were not where I think the boat went down. There are treasure hunters off the south coast of our island so perhaps they may stumble upon my stuff while looking for spanish treasure. I will have to give them a call.


53 posted on 02/27/2015 11:39:13 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mouton

Same here. Terrible we tried everything to find our boat.


54 posted on 02/27/2015 12:23:06 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: fireforeffect

To be completely honest, it’s crappy ammo. I was on a state National Guard shooting team for 3 years. The consensus was that M855 had more unexplained “fliers” than the 55gr M193. M193 was better to 400 yards. Out to 500-600 yards, the 62gr M855 was better...UNLESS you had one of those uncalled out of nowhere fliers.

One of the theories proposed that the steel penetrator may not always be perfectly centered within the lead core.


55 posted on 02/27/2015 12:48:08 PM PST by Tailback
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To: WhiskeyX

619 days until Obama is out of office....


56 posted on 02/27/2015 12:53:17 PM PST by GOPJ (How dare we act superior to beheaders, child rapists and those who burn men alive?)
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To: GOPJ

As this is being done under the “sporting purposes” standard.. is and should be seen as not valid in this case as this ammunition is in COMMON USE and as such is protected under the 2nd amendment.

“We also recognize another important limitation on the
right to keep and carry arms. Miller said, as we have
explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those
“in common use at the time.” “ DC v Heller p.26

“We think
that Miller’s “ordinary military equipment” language must
be read in tandem with what comes after: “[O]rdinarily
when called for [militia] service [able-bodied] men were
expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves
and of the kind in common use at the time.” “ DC V. Heller p52

As a militia arm the standard round of the US military should be obviously protected.

As Millions of these rounds have been sold to the general public it is “in common use”


57 posted on 02/27/2015 2:11:44 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
As I’ve read only the 62grain steel tipped (Green tip) ammo is under fire. Not the 55grain ball round.

"As I've read only machine guns are under fire. Not semi-automatics". -FUDDs and anti-gun idiots, circa 1986

58 posted on 02/27/2015 4:19:18 PM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!!)
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To: OneWingedShark

Classic flick. Love it.

Gotta laugh these days; it’s the only way to hide the tears otherwise.


59 posted on 02/27/2015 4:41:05 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: i_robot73
Gotta laugh these days; it’s the only way to hide the tears otherwise.

Man do I hear that.

60 posted on 02/27/2015 4:54:40 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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