instant on, endless hot water units are the only way to go...Famous last words.
My BIL is a plumber....he keeps about 20 on hand for all occasions. I’ve had one heater bust (rust) after about 10 years. The one thing I did when I replaced it was to make sure a drain pan was put in. Otherwise, if you don’t have the WH in a place where 55 gallons can dump out and dry, you got a big drying up problem.
Mine is in my concrete floor basement not far from the boat door, so I don’t much care about a spill.
Go tankless! Having a tank full of hot water taking up space is high button shoes technology. Only heat water when you need it, and nothing in your home to start leaking while you are away. The Japanese have lead the world in this technology.
Our new washer is so full of electonics that it often wont work correctly unless we unplug it to reboot it. I suspect a similar problem will befall these modern water heaters. Not something I look forward to with my water heater on a cold winters morning.
Thinking about getting those ‘ON-DEMAND’ type heaters gas or electric................
Anybody have one that they can provide some insight on their experiences?
Are they really cheaper in the long run?
What is the payback period?
Do they get hot or just warm?................
It's not a "Department of Energy Law", it's a statute, passed by both houses of Congress and signed by President Reagan.
Now, it's a travesty, and, like most environmental laws, probably unconstitutional, but it will once again draw out EPA haters and DOE haters, when the fault (as usual) lies with Congress.
Good to know! Replacing mine (20+ years old, but I drain it regularly) was on the Things To Do list this year. Last year was new attic insulation.
It’s always SOMETHING with, ‘This Old Dump!’ :)
For an a savings of $1 per month how much more will the government force us to pay for water heaters? Like the government mandated low flow toilets that take 3 flushes the savings is a joke.
instant on, endless hot water units are the only way to go...“One I have is 10+ years old. Probably should think about getting one and keep in storage for when it goes out. The gubmint loves us and know what’s best for us. “
That goes for everything in your home that uses water, gas, or electricity. Better go up to Canada and buy yourself some “black market” toilets or get the mfr. to sell you new “guts” for them, because the low-flow ones are guaranteed to plug up your sewer.
Our 20+ yo one kicked the bucket last year. It was a tight squeeze getting the new one in so hope it lasts as long.
later
That’s a good idea.
“”new units promise to get taller, wider and more complicated than their less-efficient predecessors.””
That’s not a pleasant thing to think about. Ours is ok for now but I’ve often wondered why on earth it was stuck in the crawl space instead of outside the crawl space on cement flooring in the subbasement as my husband calls it. I wouldn’t have any idea if a taller/wider one would even fit in the current space.
Having one on hand before 4/15 wouldn’t be a bad idea IMO!!!
The heat exchangers in Tankless/on-demand water heaters freeze and break in cold climates. For any brainiacs claiming that some of them don’t, the challenge is -40, F, with 110 mph wind gusts.
Some homebuilt, drainback water and space heating systems are the best for northern climates with sunlight, but some of the main components in them are outlawed by the florida solar heating lab racket (constituents behind the politicians). Most inspectors in CO will reject them and any build that isn’t very common and familiar to them. Rocket stove mass heaters are outlawed by the expensive wood stove racket (constituents behind the politicians). The common closed loop systems preferred by installers (plumbers) are exceedingly expensive and ineffective (huge amounts of antifreeze needing periodic replacement, too little thermal mass, glass tubes in certified collectors often break at high elevations during rapid temp changes).
Wood stove manufacturers did the same with wood stoves through the EPA. With Step 2 of the EPA rule coming in 5 years, the currently most expensive wood stoves, boilers (including outdoor boilers) and pellet stoves will be outlawed. New stoves then will require some extremely expensive and hot burning re-burners guaranteed to run through firewood, re-burners and exhausts unprecedentedly fast. It’s all an extension of the shutdown of the manufacturing base, broken glass economics and ultimately self-consuming new fascism.
Our water is so hard that ours last maybe 4 years. Average hardness is over 80. They might last longer if the sediment drain actually was low enough to get it out.
I don’t like having reply #100.
But don't mess with the hot water...(while they are having hot tub parties at the convention/seminar/taxpayer funded 'office' parties...)
What an insult to our intelligence. Even if the water tank was one of the super size ones the McMansions use, it is likely to be no bigger than 120 gallons of water.
That would only produce 2-3 inches of water in a large basement like that that would have been present in the Soprano home.