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G'mother Who Refused to Make Gay Wed Floral Argmt May Lose House, Life Savings After Guilty Verdict
Christian Post ^ | February 20, 2015 | SAMUEL SMITH

Posted on 02/21/2015 10:27:36 AM PST by NYer

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To: NYer
she did not want to hurt her friend's feelings

He wasn't a friend - she just thought he was.

A friend would have said:

"I don't agree with your views but I believe you have a right to hold them and are sincere in your beliefs.
I will buy my flower arrangements from someone who does not object to homosexual marriage."

Instead, he turned on her with a viciousness all out of proportion to the claimed offense.

People who are obsessed with their sexual proclivities and think with their sex organs are mentally ill.

Hell hath no fury like a scorned homo.

A scorned homosexual makes a scorned heterosexual woman look like a cuddly pussycat.


41 posted on 02/21/2015 11:24:09 AM PST by Iron Munro (Mark Steyn: "fundamentally transformed" is a euphemism for "wrecked beyond repair.")
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To: NYer
To learn, who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."~~Voltaire
42 posted on 02/21/2015 11:25:57 AM PST by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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To: NYer
If that was my mother/grandmother I swear that the perverts responsible...and their lawyers...would be wise to hide themselves well when they saw *me* coming.And they'd be wise to assume that they *would* see me coming.
43 posted on 02/21/2015 11:26:03 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama;America's First "Third World" President)
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To: taxcontrol

“The first amendment protects the right to peacefully assemble for the purpose of business...”
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I don’t think it says anything about business in the First Amendment. I think this judge would say that if the business does not want to offer their services to everybody, then they have to close their business to everybody. I think that is their ultimate goal. To close business that won’t do business with them.

One of the weird things about the story is how the Plaintiff and the Respondent had a long, positive, business relationship in the past. That was her first mistake...


44 posted on 02/21/2015 11:30:05 AM PST by Regal
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To: NYer

The older house we are just closing is 1/2 mile away from her store. I’ve seen Arlene around for years.

If you’d like to support her fight against tyranny by the state government, info on online purchases from Arlene’s Flowers in this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3259722/posts


45 posted on 02/21/2015 11:31:44 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: rey

If you are serious, take a look at what the Christian man (last name Jack?) from Castle Rock, CO has done.

His case is now before the Colorado Human Rights Commission.

His case has been discussed at some length here on FR.


46 posted on 02/21/2015 11:31:51 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: NYer
Also,as I've said before....this is an easy issue for a small businessperson to address...florist,baker,caterer,photographer,etc.

Just do a lousy job.Photos terribly out of focus....cake looking,and tasting,horrible....flowers looking wilted and colorless,etc.When the complaint comes,apologize profusely (not meaning a word of it of course) and offer a refund.Word would get around the pervert community that your work is horrible and they'd never darken your door again.

47 posted on 02/21/2015 11:33:54 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obama;America's First "Third World" President)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

The operative word is ‘effectively’, and indeed it has.


48 posted on 02/21/2015 11:34:47 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Gay State Conservative

I react like you do but I can assure you that’s not what Mrs. Stuztman wants.


49 posted on 02/21/2015 11:35:21 AM PST by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: Grampa Dave

Great quote! Thanks for sharing.


50 posted on 02/21/2015 11:37:35 AM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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Most of the law enforcement that has to come in and do the dirty work would be on the woman’s side.

So, of course that will stop them, right??

She can thank them for their support as they remove her from her home and shut down her business.

51 posted on 02/21/2015 11:40:20 AM PST by southern rock
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Here is her letter:

Attorney General Bob Ferguson
1125 Washington St. SE
P.O. Box 40100
Olympia, WA 98504

Re: State of Washington v. Arlene’s Flowers and Barronelle Stutzman

Dear Mr. Ferguson,

Thank you for reaching out and making an offer to settle your case against me.

As you may imagine, it has been mentally and emotionally exhausting to be at the center of this controversy for nearly two years. I never imagined that using my God-given talents and abilities, and doing what I love to do for over three decades, would become illegal. Our state would be a better place if we respected each other’s differences, and our leaders protected the freedom to have those differences. Since 2012, same-sex couples all over the state have been free to act on their beliefs about marriage, but because I follow the Bible’s teaching that marriage is the union of one man and one woman, I am no longer free to act on my beliefs.

Your offer reveals that you don’t really understand me or what this conflict is all about. It’s about freedom, not money. I certainly don’t relish the idea of losing my business, my home, and everything else that your lawsuit threatens to take from my family, but my freedom to honor God in doing what I do best is more important. Washington’s constitution guarantees us “freedom of conscience in all matters of religious sentiment.” I cannot sell that precious freedom. You are asking me to walk in the way of a well-known betrayer, one who sold something of infinite worth for 30 pieces of silver. That is something I will not do.

I pray that you reconsider your position. I kindly served Rob for nearly a decade and would gladly continue to do so. I truly want the best for my friend. I’ve also employed and served many members of the LGBT community, and I will continue to do so regardless of what happens with this case. You chose to attack my faith and pursue this not simply as a matter of law, but to threaten my very means of working, eating, and having a home. If you are serious about clarifying the law, then I urge you to drop your claims against my home, business, and other assets and pursue the legal claims through the appeal process. Thanks again for writing and I hope you will consider my offer.

Sincerely,

Barronelle Stutzman

Available here: http://www.adfmedia.org/files/ArlenesFlowersSettlementOfferResponse.pdf


52 posted on 02/21/2015 11:42:11 AM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: Gritty

The lesson is these people are sick. All efforts to normalize their sickness and tolerate it is just what got this woman burned. Jeb Bush just appointed a homosexual to be his campaign spokesperson and idiot conservatives go on twitter and RT crap from “Gay Conservative” as if there can be such a thing. Its time to start pushing back and I see at least a few look ready. Sad thing is when they come for your home or your job it will probably be too late because when it happened to others all we did was post online our “outrage” and then continue to support rinos. Any candidate that supports homosexual “marriage” shold be tossed out of the GOP. It is a symptom of a much larger problem/cancer within.


53 posted on 02/21/2015 11:44:43 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: NYer

Lots of good details here:

http://blog.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/2014/05/23/4-things-you-need-to-know-about-barronelle-stutzmans-story/


54 posted on 02/21/2015 11:49:10 AM PST by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: NYer
There is a mistake in just showing her picture. Instead, the pictures of Robert Ingersoll and Curt Freed should be displayed so that every Christian in the country can recognize them for what they are. Not as homosexuals, but as people who cannot be trusted, who will betray and ruin others, for the glorification of their perversion.

Here they are. Robert Ingersoll, left, and Curt Freed. No different than Germans who feigned friendship with Jews for decades, then at the first opportunity, turned them over to the Gestapo. It's not called the "Gaystapo" for nothing. Two smiling Nazis.


55 posted on 02/21/2015 11:52:40 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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Thanks to Travis McGee for sharing this great quote. It beats more valid everyday as the liberals try to take away our constitutional rights.

"To learn, who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize."~~Voltaire

56 posted on 02/21/2015 11:53:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave (When will Sisi, Bibi, King Abdullah & ?, take out Isis in our White House, AG Dept, CIA, & State?)
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To: Vince Ferrer; NYer
"She asks that all funds be sent to: Arlene's Defense Fund 1177 Lee Blvd. Richland, WA. 99352 Or you may give to the Fund at any Key Bank branch in Washington state. Above from this article:

How To Help Arlene's Flowers In Richland Washington

57 posted on 02/21/2015 11:57:38 AM PST by Spunky
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To: FrankR

“replace the chocolate in the cakes with Ex-Lax, and lace the “bride’s” bouquet with poison ivy...that should make for an interesting honeymoon.”

And one heck of a criminal lawsuit against them! It would be funny to do, but highly illegal.


58 posted on 02/21/2015 12:02:50 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: NYer

Can she counter-sue for violating her rights of religious freedom?


59 posted on 02/21/2015 12:05:53 PM PST by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-6-12 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: Grampa Dave

I think you are going to find some going postal in the future instead of acting like sheep IMO.
At some point all this BS will hit a wall of outrage and response to all the garbage.
People will only be civil while getting kicked in the nuts for so long. Eventually leftists and their courts are going to bother people enough to take action back.


60 posted on 02/21/2015 12:14:38 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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