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G'mother Who Refused to Make Gay Wed Floral Argmt May Lose House, Life Savings After Guilty Verdict
Christian Post ^ | February 20, 2015 | SAMUEL SMITH

Posted on 02/21/2015 10:27:36 AM PST by NYer


Barronelle Stutzman, owner of Arlene's Flowers, poses for a photo outside of her Richland, Washington, floral shop.

Putting florist, grandmother and devout Southern Baptist Barronelle Stutzman out of business was not enough for some Washington state officials. She could lose her home and life savings as well after a Washington superior court judge ruled that she violated the state's anti-discrimination law because she declined to provide flowers for a same-sex couple's wedding due to her religious convictions.

After Benton County Superior Court Judge ruled on Wednesday that Stutzman violated the law when she refused to provide floral arrangements for the wedding of Robert Ingersoll and Curt Freed in 2013, the possibility became real that Stutzman can lose her business, home, savings and other personal assets once a summary judgement is reached, according to Stutzman's lawyer Kristen Waggoner.

"The lesson from the court's decisions is that you put your home, your family business, and your life at risk by daring to defy a government mandate that forces you to promote views you believe are wrong," Waggoner, an attorney with the Alliance Defending Freedom, said in a statement. "A government that tells you what you can't say is bad enough but a government that tells you what you must say is terrifying."

Although Stutzman, who is the owner of Arlene's Flowers in Richland, has received thousands of hate letters, insults and threats from LGBT activists who decry her as prejudiced for not providing flowers to Ingersoll and Freed's wedding, Stutzman willfully served all of Ingersoll's floral requests for the nine years that Ingersoll came to her shop to buy flowers for Freed.

"She had established a really warm relationship with Rob Ingersoll, who had been in for nine years and come in and spent a good amount of money throughout the years and they had gotten to know each other pretty well," Waggoner said in a video posted to ADF website.

"He has a very creative mind and we just kind of hit it off," Stutzman admitted.

In the video, Stutzman discusses how she prepared many floral arrangements for Ingersoll over the years. She explained that she had no problem making flowers for Ingersoll and Freed to send to one another.

But a few months after gay marriage was passed in Washington in 2012, Ingersoll came to the shop and told Stutzman that he was getting married and he wanted her to provide the flowers for the wedding. Stutzman was caught in a tough spot as she did not want to hurt her friend's feelings and did not want defy her religious convictions that tell her that marriage is only between a man and a woman.

"It was a real struggle to decide what to do with that. My husband and I talked it over and as much as I loved Rob, I just couldn't be a part of that," Stutzman asserted. "If I did Rob's wedding, it would be from my heart because I think he is a really special person and I would want to make it really special for him. It wasn't something that I said, 'Oh, I'm not going to do Rob's wedding because he is gay.'"

"I think most artistic people, especially painters, they put their heart into their arrangements as part of them and part of who they are. I think that is the same thing with a florist," Stutzman added.

When Stutzman told Ingersoll that she would not be able to service his wedding, she did not expect to receive backlash. The news of Stutzman's denial of service for a gay wedding hit social media and stirred outrage and even caught the attention of Washington Attorney General Bob Ferguson.

Ferguson's office later filed a lawsuit on behalf of Washington state against Stutzman, after sending Stutzman a letter demanding that she service gay weddings. Even though no official complaint was filed against Stutzman, Ferguson's office pursued the lawsuit and accused Stutzman and her business of violating the state's non-discrimination laws.

"The attorney general's action in this case is unprecedented in Washington state," Waggoner explained. "We have never had an attorney general take the position that this attorney general has taken."

After news of the state's lawsuit against Stutzman broke, the American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit on behalf of the gay couple, even though Waggoner says the couple admitted getting offers from over 20 different florists to provide flowers for their wedding for free.

In January, Judge Eckstrom ruled that Stutzman could also be sued on a personal level in addition to being sued on a business capacity. Stutzman is not only at risk of paying the $2,000 fine for violating the state's discrimination law, but is also at risk of having to pay thousands of dollars in legal fees, which could result in her losing her home and business, Waggoner claims.

"She is at great risk as a result of serving someone lovingly and in a kind way for nine years," Waggoner said. "Because you won't do one same sex wedding, you are going to lose your house or your business and she's been working in this business for 40 years."

Waggoner said penalizing someone for acting on their own religious beliefs violates the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Waggoner said ADF plans to appeal the judge's ruling.

"This is about marriage. It's not about bigotry. She knew of their [homosexual] relationship. She provided flowers that she sent to each other. But when it came to marriage, that was the line. Because, as she will tell you, 'Marriage represents the relationship of Christ and His church.' It's a sacred covenant," Waggoner contends. "This case is coercing someone to engage in expression and that is against America's tradition and it's unconstitutional."

Even though Stutzman is being portrayed by critics and some media outlets as an intolerable anti-homosexual, Stutzman has employed many homosexuals in her shop in the past.

"I have hired all walks of people in different circumstances, and had the privilege of working with some very talented people that happen to be gay," Stutzman wrote in a Facebook post. "Since that day, we have received many comments on same-sex marriages. I believe, biblically, that marriage is between a man and a woman. That is my conviction, yours may be different."

Despite the countless hate letters she received, Stutzman said that she also receives letters of support from Christians all around the world encouraging her to stand strong in her Christian convictions.

"I have to have faith that He is going to protect me and give me the courage, the knowledge and the wisdom to stand firm on this," Stutzman asserted. "This has also helped me understand what obedience is and… what following Christ is. You can't sit on the fence and like He says, 'You can't be lukewarm.' That's what I was. I was lukewarm."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: antireligion; baptist; homosexualagenda; lgbt; romneymarriage; time2startbacklash
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1 posted on 02/21/2015 10:27:36 AM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; Salvation; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/21/2015 10:28:11 AM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

The fudge-packer Nazis are evil. Don’t you dare cross them. You better love them or be prepared for some nasty consequences.


3 posted on 02/21/2015 10:29:46 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Bush "hates black people" but don't you dare accuse Barry of not liking Americans!)
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To: NYer

I’m going to go to a gay floral or bakery shop and see if they will do a flower arrangement or bake a cake for a Klan wedding.


4 posted on 02/21/2015 10:30:56 AM PST by rey
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To: NYer

After she pays everything, someone needs to have a fundraiser for her.


5 posted on 02/21/2015 10:31:14 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: FlingWingFlyer

They had better not cross me.


6 posted on 02/21/2015 10:32:08 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: NYer

Where is the Republicans on this? Sarah Palin??


7 posted on 02/21/2015 10:33:21 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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God will take care of her.


8 posted on 02/21/2015 10:33:40 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: NYer

Argmt?


9 posted on 02/21/2015 10:34:00 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: NYer

One thing I’ve been missing in these “trials” is the words “a jury found her guilty”. It’s always been a single judge that is basically on the payroll of some bureaucratic agency.

The same for the cake bakers in Oregon. No jury trial, just a decree by a judge.

People need to demand jury trials!


10 posted on 02/21/2015 10:34:57 AM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: NYer

These last six years have put a real strain on my “buy American” beliefs. You can’t buy American without supporting evil anymore.


11 posted on 02/21/2015 10:35:43 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Actually when they come to take my home over these a hole lovers, they will be stacked like cord wood here.


12 posted on 02/21/2015 10:36:11 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: NYer

Lawyers have pretty much ruined our nation. We have law schools pumping our 50x more than what we need.

There needs to be a new revolution.


13 posted on 02/21/2015 10:40:50 AM PST by boycott
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Predatory prosecution.

Where is the “Prosecutorial Discretion”? Prosecutors exercise unfettered discretion, deciding who to charge with a crime, what charges to file, when to drop the charges, whether or not to plea bargain, and how to allocate prosecutorial resources.

Browbeating grandmothers makes for blazing headlines, and prosecutors are, at heart, political animals, either for themselves, or the regime they represent. Make an example of one, a hundred others are severely inhibited in any future decisions. And even then, the boundaries are not defined.

Secret trials and star chambers are next. Oh, wait, we already have some of these already in use, it is only a matter of expanding their scope.

Dystopia is only an election away. It is nearing the point at which you do not KNOW if you have violated some obscure and arcane law or regulation, and the administration of “justice” under the terms of that statute is totally capricious.


14 posted on 02/21/2015 10:41:40 AM PST by alloysteel (It isn't science, it's law. Rational thought does not apply.)
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People should flee the communist states.


15 posted on 02/21/2015 10:42:35 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace- No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Mouton

Actually when they come to take my home over these a hole lovers, they will be stacked like cord wood here.


The lawyers and the judges are the ones that need to be addressed here. Most of the law enforcement that has to come in and do the dirty work would be on the woman’s side.


16 posted on 02/21/2015 10:42:35 AM PST by boycott
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To: NYer

Anyone who claims ‘they’ (homos, blacks, illegals, etc) want equality are damned liars. They want power and superiority. But nope, they want to utterly destroy Christians and this woman.


17 posted on 02/21/2015 10:43:26 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: boycott

Shakespeare said something about this.


18 posted on 02/21/2015 10:43:52 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace- No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: alloysteel

By the state effectively forcing people to do business against their will they have effectively “nationalized” or “state-ized” private businesses....

And don’t try to whine about (well this is what southern segregation was about) because a vast majority of segregation in the south was STATE ENFORCED!

So now the state can tell you who to do business with????

Gee, looks like the Democrats are back in power again....


19 posted on 02/21/2015 10:43:54 AM PST by GraceG (Protect the Border from Illegal Aliens, Don't Protect Illegal Alien Boarders...)
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To: NYer

This is enough.

This judge has a name.

And an address.

It is time he worried a little.

No, make that a lot.


20 posted on 02/21/2015 10:44:37 AM PST by Da Coyote
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