Posted on 02/14/2015 4:52:49 AM PST by OwenKellogg
Saudi Arabia, as the nexus and active exporter of Whabbism is a significant component of the enemy. W was never up to addressing the issue.
Whether or not we have a Strategic Air Command, there are bombing strategies in military aviation history that were successful and sustainable and there is a strategy for the 21st century. It just needs refinement and time but not too much time. Whatever book on war you say (and you seem to think that it’s a winner) ISIS is writing, if the United States of America had the will, and to have it in spades, “Mohammed’s book” would be just another footnote in World History that should be criticized if not ridiculed.
“We are past the pissing and moaning stage.”
That’s a fact.
Two facts:
* We have no (real) money for an overseas war. None.
* Obama, and the military leadership remaining under him, would be directing that overseas war.
* The organizations and governments we would arm and empower there likely to become our enemies.
* Many, many young men you know would die for those organizations.
Solution: Get out completely. Shut the borders to all of them. Spend the defense budget on military defense of North America.
* sorry, four facts
I’ve been calling this guy the 20’th hijacker since the day he was elected. He broke into the cockpit of America, and has the stick pushed forward as far as it will go.
“Ive been calling this guy the 20th hijacker since the day he was elected. He broke into the cockpit of America, and has the stick pushed forward as far as it will go.”
Obama continues to prove himself as a political predator and he won’t stop trying after he leaves the White House.
It really is too bad that we can’t carpet bomb ISIS. Unfortunately it’s sort of a hostage situation over there so we can’t do the brute force thing.
>>Bombing is not a strategy.<<
A wider middle eastern war will truly ramp up when Israel begins dismantling Iran’s nuclear program.
Then, it will be on.
I will support total war with no idiot rules of engagement. I will not support "winning hearts and minds" nation building. We tried that and lost.
Our political “leaders” will never admit that Islam is the problem. Egypt’s President did. Historic speech that most people never heard about.
The people most closely following the Koran and the example of their prophet are ISIS, Taliban, Boko Haram, etc.
Islam means submission and every Mulim is obligated to the goal of global submission.
#3 graphic is chillingly true
This war requires a Japanese cockroach solution just like last time only a good bit more.
Dubya set us back 25 years in properly addressing the problem with that line.
That's kind of a straw man. Sure we brought hell down on those places with our incendiary bombs and nukes, but those wouldn't have won those wars. Germany and Italy had to be taken on the ground. Japan would have still needed to be taken on the ground, with millions lost on both sides, if they hadn't surrendered(I believe it was going to be called "Operation Olympic"). Luckily those two Nuclear bombs took away their desire to fight on. Now, THAT was some 'Shock and Awe'.
No, it was a speech by President Shrub. Then he got to Baghdad and stopped to pretend he could civilize an Islamist Sunni-Shia civil war with borrowed money.
WE KNOW theyll eventually nuke us in the future — whether or not we nuke them...
Which begs the philosophical question of pre-emptive strikes. Here’s an analogy I’ve designed. I’m interested in any critical opinion on the logic:
1. Suppose, your neighbor hates you and has a beautiful kind wife.
2. Suppose his hobby is raising a lot of rattlesnakes in his backyard.
3. Suppose there is no fence between your yard and his and there is no way to build an effective barrier.
4. Suppose he has threatened to kill you with his rattlesnakes and there’s deep grass all around your house...
5. Suppose you realize that eventually his rattlesnakes WILL kill you.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO? __________
a) Do you blow up his house including him and all the rattlesnakes and his innocent/beautiful wife?
b) Or do you wait until your certain future of death by rattlesnakes?
Clearly, its NOT wise for you to wait for your certain death, so your only LOGICAL choice is to nuke your neighbor.
Your dilemma is you that know that there will be innocent casualties (e.g. his beautiful/innocent wife would die in the blast), but you will not be killed in the future by him and you will rid the world of this evil man and his weapons.
THEREFORE, from a pure survival standpoint, wouldn’t it make more sense to nuke (with a Neutron Bomb) all of ISIS and all other evil factions in the Middle East? Unfortunately this would result in innocent casualties, but we know that it is a certainty that there WILL BE MANY innocent casualties in the Western world if we wait to be attacked. So we then the choice is distilled into do we want the innocent casualties to be theirs or ours?
Source: Ross Perot once mentioned the analogy of a rattlesnake in your backyard. I merely expanded upon the idea.
When the SHTF and if it does it before 2016 it might be a very long time before another D is elected to the highest office in our land.
I pray for our troops. He has shown he does not value or care for them.
I would give GWB maybe a C or C+ for his efforts after 911.
Of course O gets a big fat F. Actually a ZERO.
Killing the most active of the islamics has been done only a few at a time at great expense and risk to our people. We need a wholesale attrition of this enemy.
Imagine a non-contagious biological agent that is capable of permanently sterilizing men, which could be broadcast by drones.
The violence of islamics against the rest of the world has been going on since the lifetime of mohammed (piss be upon him)and there is no end in sight. Even if millions of them were killed with nuclear weapons, at some point in the future the survivors would regrow their population and come back with a fresher reason to hate us.
The only truly effective long term strategy would be to prevent them from reproducing and cause them to die off.
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