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Obama Is a Good BS'er, but He's a Terrible Liar
Townhall.com ^ | February 13, 2015 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 02/13/2015 12:18:40 PM PST by Kaslin

It's pretty simple. If you lie, lie about the right things.

It's not difficult to imagine a pro-choice candidate winning the presidency. But imagine, if you can, a president whose position on abortion "evolves" after the election. Imagine this president advocating that all innocent human life is worth protecting. Imagine that she appoints judges to solidify her new pro-life attitude. And then imagine that the president's top adviser informs us that the president was a pro-lifer all along. I imagine that would be a pretty big story.

Politicians break their promises and modify their positions all the time, of course. They BS us about their opinions and carefully craft identities that are palatable to the average voter. When a person enters this political universe, we need to accept that most of the things we hear are, at best, poetic truths.

In "Believer: My Forty Years in Politics," David Axelrod claims that he knew Obama supported gay marriage back when he first ran for president in 2008. "I'm just not very good at (BS'ing)," a far-too-modest Barack Obama supposedly told his adviser after a campaign stop. "There's no doubt that his sympathies were on the side of allowing gay couples to marry," Axelrod says. "He also recognized that the country wasn't there yet -- that we needed to bring the country along."

According to unreliable sources across the interwebs, BS means nonsense or a rebuke of something misleading, disingenuous or false. The primary Urban Dictionary definition of BS'ing is: "When someone has no f---ing clue what they are talking about, Yet insists on trying to get others to believe him/her." So contra the president's self-criticism, he excels at it.

Lying, on the other hand, not so much. Obama is given a free pass, as the media use every euphemism in existence to avoid using the word lie. A lie that Obama covered up using his faith. A lie that reflects the corruption of politics in general and this president in particular. It's the sort of lying that one imagines all good government types would be concerned about.

The candidate didn't merely contribute to public misinformation; he claimed that God had cemented his views on the issue. "I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman," said Obama when defending traditional marriage in 2008. "Now, for me, as a Christian ... it is also a sacred union. God's in the mix."

Obama pulled a variation of Mario Cuomo's famous cop-out on social issues. The former New York governor argued that he, as a Catholic, might believe abortion was tantamount to killing but that he, as a politician, would not seek "to force" his beliefs regarding murder on others in the same way he might force people to do more important stuff, such as recycle. Cuomo was able to embrace liberal orthodoxy while preserving a bond with his faith. Or so he thought.

Obama, on the other hand, claimed that his faith was so strong he couldn't give in to progressive orthodoxy. Whether Jesus and/or public polling informed Obama's decision, for me, at least, his awkward stance on same-sex marriage always sounded more like an apology -- something akin to: "Listen. Voters believe all this stuff, so I'm sort of required to take this callous, antiquated positon on 'marriage' that, as we all know, I don't really believe." Axelrod's story, then, is completely plausible.

The first clue was his use of Christianity itself. Of all the people I've debated in public or private about gay marriage -- and there have been many -- I can't recall a single instance when the defense was predicated on "as a Christian." As an atheist, I find that proponents of traditional marriage are far likelier to argue about social goods and societal benefits than they are to offer declarations of moral certitude meant to shut down a conversation. I can't say the same for the other side.

In an interview with BuzzFeed, Obama retroactively corrected himself. "I think David is mixing up my personal feelings with my position on the issue," he said. "I always felt that same-sex couples should be able to enjoy the same rights, legally, as anybody else, and so it was frustrating to me not to, I think, be able to square that with what were a whole bunch of religious sensitivities out there."

No one with access thought it worthwhile to dig any further back then? Why doesn't someone ask Obama what's changed about his Christianity that brought about this evolution? Squaring your opinion with "a whole bunch of religious sensitivities" is not the same as contending that you're opposed to gay marriage "as a Christian" who believes that traditional marriage is "a sacred union." It makes no sense.

What's clear is that Obama isn't shy about pulling in religion when it suits his political needs. Christianity is a means of bolstering progressive ideals. For years, I've been hearing how twisting faith for political purposes corrodes American democracy. It was a selective concern. And if David Axelrod is telling the truth -- and it seems to me that the purpose of this story is to let us know that the president was always enlightened -- what we learn is that the president is a pretty big BS'er but not a very good liar. Not that anyone seems to be too concerned.


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: barack0bama; gaymarriage

1 posted on 02/13/2015 12:18:40 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I’d be a pretty good BS’er too if I knew the entire MSM would go to the mattresses to defend whatever whopper I decided to pleasure myself with at any given moment.


2 posted on 02/13/2015 12:20:42 PM PST by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Steely Tom
Yes, some would vote in a stale ham sandwich to office if they had a D by their name.
3 posted on 02/13/2015 12:23:13 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Kaslin
Obie IS....by almost any measure...THE LEAST Mature Authentic President Imaginable! any way you look at it!




4 posted on 02/13/2015 12:30:37 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Kaslin

George Costanza said a lie is not a lie if you truly believe it.


5 posted on 02/13/2015 12:32:56 PM PST by Recompennation
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To: Kaslin

Pretty good BS’er but a piece of crap as president.


6 posted on 02/13/2015 12:34:21 PM PST by Bullish (Not even a smidgeon of integrity or sanity in this whitehouse.)
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To: Recompennation

George Constanza is a moron and idiot


7 posted on 02/13/2015 12:35:47 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

It’s easy to lie when you’re aware there will be no repercussions whatsoever.


8 posted on 02/13/2015 12:39:20 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Bratch

” It’s easy to lie when you’re aware there will be no repercussions whatsoever.”

WINNER


9 posted on 02/13/2015 12:43:06 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Kaslin

Exactly!


10 posted on 02/13/2015 12:43:52 PM PST by Recompennation
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To: Kaslin
Obama Is a Good BS'er, but He's a Terrible Liar

Not a "Good BS'er" with anyone past a third grade education and more than a double digit IQ.

11 posted on 02/13/2015 12:45:40 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Some say I hate 0bama; "HATE" is a strong word, but in this case NOT STRONG ENOUGH!!)
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To: Kaslin

I think Recomp was being tongue-in-cheek.


12 posted on 02/13/2015 1:30:23 PM PST by Rennes Templar (New name for Boehner: The Caveman)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Not a "Good BS'er" with anyone past a third grade education and more than a double digit IQ.

Fearfully, that may be close to 50 of the population.

13 posted on 02/13/2015 1:35:21 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: Kaslin

May be a terrible liar, but he is still a liar.


14 posted on 02/13/2015 2:07:24 PM PST by falcon99
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To: Kaslin; BillyBoy

“He also recognized that the country wasn’t there yet — that we needed to bring the country along.”

In other words he’s a coward and still wouldn’t officially support faggotry today if the polls hadn’t shifted.


15 posted on 02/13/2015 8:37:38 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Steely Tom

Obama’s claiming to be a Christian is equivalent to Joe Biden claiming to be a professor of physics.


16 posted on 02/14/2015 8:47:23 AM PST by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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