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Panel warns Tricare in ‘death spiral’ (Different than Husseincare's death panels)
Stars & Stripes ^ | 2/11/15 | Travis J. Tritten

Posted on 02/12/2015 5:51:48 PM PST by Libloather

WASHINGTON — The military’s Tricare health insurance is a broken system that is now in a “death spiral” and must be replaced, a congressional review commission told the House on Wednesday.

The insurance has been veering toward less choice and access since it was created and now falls far behind other networks in its number of providers and ability to incorporate new types of medical care, members of the Military Retirement and Compensation Modernization Commission testified before an Armed Services subcommittee.

The testimony is the beginning of hearings on Capitol Hill so lawmakers can consider legislation to overhaul the health coverage, troop retirement system and other compensation that the Pentagon says is growing too expensive to sustain. The Senate has also planned a series of subcommittee hearings to weigh a number of the commission recommendations, including a complete restructuring of 20-year military retirement system.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: death; military; spiral; tricare
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To: Libloather

How convenient. Just when Obammie is doing selfies to urge America to sign up to his failing signature legacy legislation, Tricare is there to bump the Obamcare numbers.


21 posted on 02/12/2015 7:11:03 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: Libloather

Soon we will all be on Medicaid.

Life is so much simpler when you no longer have any choices to make.


22 posted on 02/12/2015 7:18:07 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: TADSLOS

winnah winnah chicken dinnah!

The GS workers resent the hell out of the mil retirees. They will argue that it is “unfair” to have working age mil retirees on Tricare. Remind me again of how many IEDs there have been on I-395? I guess I missed the part where it is “fair” illegals get free care w/o lifting a finger. This comission bought into the lie that Defense is just another gubmint program competing for resources with welfare vice job #1.

In short, they can kiss my a$$


23 posted on 02/12/2015 7:20:01 PM PST by redlegplanner ( No Representation without Taxation)
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To: therut

and much slower, if you can fathom that...


24 posted on 02/12/2015 8:19:45 PM PST by cherry
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To: OldSmaj

“So, all in all and all things considered, I can’t really complain. “

Your “complaints” will start when the systems go bust. But unless you are young, you are quite likely to escape the collapse. But think what’s been left to your children and their children. I actually consider myself lucky to have lived when I have, because I think I’ve seen the best of America. With all the “immigration,” it cannot remain the country in which I lived and prospered. The “huddled masses” are poised to destroy it.


25 posted on 02/12/2015 8:55:24 PM PST by vette6387
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To: therut

Tri Care Pays Physicians and Hospitals less than Medicare.


Not only that, but they are extremely slow. I got something from them last month & couldn’t figure out when I’d been seen at the facility that was listed. Well it was from 18 months prior & they were JUST then getting around to paying!

I’ve had trouble finding docs that take it & I’d say that is a big part of the reason why. When you add the slowness to the low reimbursement rate, who would want to accept it?


26 posted on 02/12/2015 9:24:27 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Libloather

“new types of medical care”, you mean like sex changes?


27 posted on 02/12/2015 9:25:06 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: leapfrog0202

I think I must be extraordinarily lucky. I have Tricare Standard which is bumped to Select. Every medical facility accepts it here.


28 posted on 02/12/2015 9:38:18 PM PST by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: ozaukeemom

That’s great Ozaukeemom! We have a lot of retirees here & I think clinics are just tired of waiting for their money.


29 posted on 02/12/2015 9:41:18 PM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: leapfrog0202

When OBAMACARE was first being discussed, (before it passed), I said that DOD wanted it because that would give them a chance to dump Tricare beneficiaries onto the private sector and keep the money for weapons instead.

The problems that will ensue if they do this is active duty family members will be forced to travel to see doctors and come up with the high deductibles and co-pays. Add to that the frequent transfers to another state with the need to apply again for insurance on the state exchange, (or Federal Exchange for that state), and you will see many cases of lapsed coverage and financial strain caused by that.

Finally, how do they handle dependents overseas? Especialy where there is no military hospital. Currently Tricare Global remote Overseas,(Prime ), contracts with local providers and hospitals for care for active duty and family members and Tricare pays the bill.

Then you have the issue of Tricare Standard overseas for retirees and their dependents. We would be left without any medical insurance, (which we earned and which was promised to us). US insurance companies won’t/can’t provide the coverage overseas because of all the rules of the different countries involved. Will DOD provide us with a “premium” in order to purchase local health insurance? Most overseas health inshurance companies have a 60-65 age limit for insurability.

As much as I dislike Tricare Standard overseas, (which in most cases requires us to file claims at the level required by US insurance companies and which locals doctors and hospital are unable to document at that level), at least we are getting better at “perfecting” our claims to the US standards, albeit with a lot of research on the internet to get the correct medical terminology and details required. Losing Tricare would leave us in limbo and the US Government would be breaking the promise of this benefit that we earned.


30 posted on 02/13/2015 12:30:55 AM PST by usnavy_cop_retired (Retiree in the P.I. living as a legal immigrant)
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To: Libloather
The testimony is the beginning of hearings on Capitol Hill so lawmakers can consider legislation to overhaul the health coverage, troop retirement system and other compensation that the Pentagon says is growing too expensive to sustain. The Senate has also planned a series of subcommittee hearings to weigh a number of the commission recommendations, including a complete restructuring of 20-year military retirement system.

Wouldn't this pending disaster apply equally to the monstrous retirement and health system for elected officials, written by the bureaucracy itself for the exclusive benefit of themselves?

Unsustainable doesn't begin to describe it!

31 posted on 02/13/2015 12:33:22 AM PST by publius911 (Formerly Publius6961)
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To: therut

My father retired from the Marine Corps when I was five years old. We didn’t have “medical insurance” we went to a military installation, drove to the hospital and were treated, for everything from allergies to cancer, free of charge.


32 posted on 02/13/2015 1:58:32 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Libloather
Being retired military, I figured that TriCare would go down the tubes as a result of ObamaCare - another promise stepped upon for those who served and fulfilled their side of the contract.

Retired now and hoping things don't fall completely apart before I and my wife do.

33 posted on 02/13/2015 4:23:54 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Another made up crisis to cheat the veterans and get money out of them rather than cutting money for the undeserving.


34 posted on 02/13/2015 4:51:20 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: OldSmaj

I could have written the same things myself, you and I appear to feel the same about Tricare. For me, its actually working therefore it must be scrapped.


35 posted on 02/13/2015 5:17:23 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Libloather

We are Tricare Life, last March 2014 we were DOD MANDATED where we could fill our daily scripts.

Express Scripts a known Fraud company with bad service, just shoves your meds into your mail box. NO ID SIGN FOR. No matter the cost or how dangerous the drug. ES over rides DAW scripts if there is a generic. It takes about a month to get the first script filled and 2 weeks for a refill.

NEVER LET THEM TAKE PAYMENTS OUT OF YOUR BANK ACCOUNT!

Or use Military Base. Which is NOT handicapped friendly. The Base will fill within 24 hrs, and refills come out of Pensacola with in a week.

Hope you are not in a hurry for your meds.

And the bottles are always way to large for the pills. If you take many as most seniors do, you need a graph to keep track of them.

Local Neurosurgeon turned down Medicare/Tricare Life government run ins. We are seeing more signs up in doctors offices stating NO NEW MEDICARE PATIENTS, thus no new TRICARE LIFE patients.

Yet the DOD has money to burn on $7K speed bumps in the Commissary and Exchange 5mph parking lots. And putting up monuments. And just why are they remodeling our Exchange when the only thing wrong was a roof leak in 1 section?

To expensive for the average GI to use to boot. $200 for a Vera wallet. Over $300 for a Coach purse.


36 posted on 02/13/2015 6:11:11 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: Gritty

Thread winner!


37 posted on 02/13/2015 6:48:10 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: GailA

I just started with ES about 6 months ago. It was a choice. I just got my newest scrip within 6 days, including last weekend. I did not know they are a fraud company. It is just easier for me to get my meds delivered rather than going to Wally World. Haven’t had to pay for any yet.
Sounds like I must be an exception for being happy with Tricare.


38 posted on 02/13/2015 6:39:37 PM PST by ozaukeemom (Is there even a republic left?)
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To: ozaukeemom

Google them and read about the fraud and the customer complaints. Do NOT let them have access to your bank account for auto payment. They even override DAW written script.

I take name brand Synthroid, ES will send the generic. Difference in cost $6-8 depending on strength. I had to fight for a year to get them to pay for the name brand with my co-pay.

Don’t know what plan you are on but we are TRICARE LIFE Ret Military over 65. And ES collects a cop-pay. I hate that they just shove our meds into the mailbox regardless of weather with out being ID signed for. We have a lot of kids in the neighborhood..kids and dangerous pills don’t mix well. US Rep Steven Fincher said it would take an act of congress to change the mail process of NO ID sign for.


39 posted on 02/16/2015 6:07:52 AM PST by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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