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I want to hear the libertarians here explain this.
1 posted on 02/02/2015 4:46:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One was doing his duty/job, the other was psychotic killer...

It’s really quite that simple ahole...(not you 2nd DivVet)


2 posted on 02/02/2015 4:50:20 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political parties in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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“Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School.”

Excuse *me*, but you are a bleeping bleep-head who doesn’t have a bleeping clue about bleep in life.


3 posted on 02/02/2015 4:51:43 AM PST by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense!)
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Typical America hating Marxist. How’s letting the Mooslimbs running wild working out for you buckwheat?

Pray America is waking


4 posted on 02/02/2015 4:54:38 AM PST by bray (Palin/Cruz to the WH)
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Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School. It certainly was not heroism.

Sheldon's heroes:

The men who flew the jets into the World Trade Center

Michel Brown of Ferguson, MO

Mayor de Blasio

Rapper Suge Knight

Barack Obama

5 posted on 02/02/2015 4:55:49 AM PST by centurion316
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Contrary to what the George W. Bush administration suggested, Iraq had nothing to do with the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001.

Can the author cite a quote from the Bush Administration that suggested Iraq did have something to do with the attacks on Sept. 11, 2001? I thought not.

The Bush administration was concerned that Iraq was not complying with UN weapons inspectors, and that Hussein would give WMDs to terrorists who would use them on the United States post-9/11.

7 posted on 02/02/2015 4:56:46 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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"Eastwood's movie also features an Iraqi sniper. Why isn't he regarded as a hero for resisting an invasion of his homeland, like the Americans in my hypothetical example?"

Someone is free to correct me if I'm wrong, but as I recall, the sniper was Syrian. So using her example he was also a foreign invader...
8 posted on 02/02/2015 4:58:59 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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My co-workers had to watch me foaming at the mouth as I read this.

1. Saddam never threatened America or Americans? Shekdon, you ignorant.... Iraq was shooting SAMs at our planes in teh no fly zone. Saddam was constantly speechifying about getting nuclear weapons to destroy American power in the Middle East. There was even an Iraqi plot to Kill President Bush (G.W.H.). What an ignorant piece of trash.

2. Saddam used Salman Pak (google it) as a training ground for members of every single terrorist group on the face of the earth, Al Queda included. Old terrorists retired there, hunted terrorists fled there.

3. The Iraqis we had to deal with in Iraq (I was there 03-04) were terrorists. They used suicide bombers, kids, and women to attack Americans for sectarian and terror purposes. They killed each other on an epic scale. They were and are evil. And the writer should go talk to the Iraqi freedom fighters in ISIS and see how they treat him.

4. To equate Adam Lanza and Chris Kyle is beyond anything I can even imagine. What a vile disgusting piece of trash this scummy.....


12 posted on 02/02/2015 5:07:01 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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Nazis were not executed for wars of aggression. They were executed for their crimes against humanity. You ever hear of the Holocaust?


13 posted on 02/02/2015 5:07:20 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Do you know who Barry Soetoro is?)
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Did the kids at Sandy Hook have AK47’s and grenades?


16 posted on 02/02/2015 5:09:56 AM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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Soldiers, Marines, Sailors and Air Force personnel do what their told and go where they’re sent. And they should not be protected in that process?

This Sheldon Richman himself seems to me an islamist or islamist facilitator.


17 posted on 02/02/2015 5:14:26 AM PST by onedoug
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The liberals can keep repeating the lie about Iraq until the end of the world and it will still be a lie.

Iraq invaded its peaceful neighbor Kuwait.
(but wait! they say. That was the justified reason for the 1st gulf war!)

True.

And the agreement to end the first gulf war had conditions. Almost none of which Iraq kept. Then on top of that Iraq did the following things:

Iraq was a state sponsor of terror.
Iraq paid money to the families of suicide bombers.
Iraq started shooting at our planes patrolling the no fly zone

so! the libs say. They didn't attack us! (well accept for shooting at our planes)

To that I respond. The Germans didn't attack us at pearl harbor either! but when you are fighting a war against someone and another country chooses to take the side of your enemy then they have become your enemy also!

Iraq was a state sponsor of terrorism! (you know the same terrorists which ATTACKED US on 9-11)

Just as Germany was an ally of Japan, which ATTACK US at pearl harbor!

I know liberals have pee sized brains, but even they should be able to understand something that simple.

18 posted on 02/02/2015 5:16:19 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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I want to hear the libertarians here explain this.

Put a label on someone. Associate all "like minded" people with a given label. Make anyone in the group "guilty" of any crimes committed by the group.

That is the antithesis on individualism and libertarian thinking. The idea of "group guilt" is in fact marxist.

19 posted on 02/02/2015 5:16:22 AM PST by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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>>Eastwood’s movie also features an Iraqi sniper. Why isn’t he regarded as a hero for resisting an invasion of his homeland, like the Americans in my hypothetical example?

So, it’s a heroic thing to shoot people who are illegally entering your country? I can accept that.


22 posted on 02/02/2015 5:16:57 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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I’m not a big L atheist “Libertarian” who comes off sounding like their written and spoken words were manufactured in Havana.

The problem of “wars” that the United States has fought since Korea in the early 1950’s is that they have been essentially police actions fought under international law with rules of engagement.

When Afghanistan and Iraq were invaded international forces ended up occupying the countries. For instance, the military force that United States military was part of in Afghanistan had the name “International Security and Assistance Force”. ISAF was authorized by the United Nations.

Don Rumsfeld said the war we got ourselves into after 9/11 was not being fought like World War II. How right he is.

Douglas MacArthur told Congress after Truman fired him for wanting an actual military victory in Korea (That would have made the world a better place today) “in war there is no substitute for victory”.

I’m not here to dis Chris Kyle or our military but I dis the ‘leaders’ like Bush and Obama who genuflected to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

In the movie “Patton” there is a scene where Patton tells a soldier he’s “going to Berlin to personally shoot the paper hanging SOB”(Adolf Hitler).

After 9/11 millions of Americans should have been uniformed and sent to deal with the SOB’s in Pakistan, Saudi Arabia etc. etc. etc.

They weren’t......

Besides hijacking our patriotism after 9/11 to police the world for the New World Order instead of winning a war for the American people, W also advanced liberalism by using the police war as a distraction for conservatives.

The distraction covered the expansion of government power with the establishment of the TSA, starting the NSA data collection, Campaign Finance Reform (overturned by the SC), No Child Left Behind with its unrealistic promise of 100 percent proficiency in 10 years, Medicare Part D, TARP bailout for the banking industry etc. etc. etc.


23 posted on 02/02/2015 5:18:35 AM PST by Nextrush (OBAMACARE IS A BAILOUT FOR THE HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY)
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This is an irredeemable Leftist, and I will not waste words debating her - nor will I mourn her passing when she dies.

And the LIEbertarians - will they stop smoking free dope long enough to notice?


24 posted on 02/02/2015 5:23:56 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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The author is using Kyle as an excuse to attack the entire U.S. military, who he hates.


25 posted on 02/02/2015 5:26:54 AM PST by Michael.SF. (It takes a gun to feed a village (and an AK 47 to defend it).)
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Excuse me, but I have trouble seeing an essential difference between what Kyle did in Iraq and what Adam Lanza did at Sandy Hook Elementary School. It certainly was not heroism.

That is why they took her off the committee to choose the school speakers for the children.

29 posted on 02/02/2015 5:34:22 AM PST by ansel12 (Civilization, Crusade against the Mohammedan Death Cult.)
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The only reason Kyle went to Iraq was that Bush/Cheney & Co. launched a war of aggression against the Iraqi people.

Huh??? Let's see... Saddam attacked tankers in the Persian Gulf and invaded Kuwait in the 90's.

After we kicked him out, Bush initiated two "No-Fly Zones" in the north and south of Iraq. Anything that flew was shot down. Any SAM site that illuminated an aircraft was blown up.

Clinton kept those No-Fly zones intact and expanded their mandate.Anything that flew was shot down. Any SAM site that illuminated an aircraft was blown up.

Bush II kept those No-Fly zones in place, and while I've never agreed with the Iraq invasion, it's what we ended up with.

To call Mr. Kyle out individually, is to call out everyone who went because the politicians we elected told them to go.

What a rube...

32 posted on 02/02/2015 5:39:39 AM PST by Freeport (The proper application of high explosives will remove all obstacles.)
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> “Dictator Saddam Hussein never even threatened to attack Americans.”

Why give Richman a second of our time when he lies and ignores clear history?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/inatl/longterm/iraq/timeline/062793.htm

“Clinton said he ordered the attack after receiving “compelling evidence” from U.S. intelligence officials that Bush had been the target of an assassination plot and that the plot was “directed and pursued by the Iraqi Intelligence Service.”

Although the source is the now discredited Washington Post referencing the now discredited Clinton, the time of the attack was in 1993 which was before the Post had become a full propaganda organ of the Left and during which Clinton still showed he revered the memory of Ronald Reagan for political purposes. Besides I remember the attack on President GHW Bush and remember all press and broadcast reports concerning it.


33 posted on 02/02/2015 5:42:18 AM PST by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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I think Sheldon has his panties in a wad. He started with 'unlawful warfare' and worked his way from there.

/johnny

35 posted on 02/02/2015 5:42:54 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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