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New report suggests that the footballs were not nearly as bad as initially reported
Business Insider ^ | Feb 1, 2015 | Cork Gaines

Posted on 02/01/2015 12:01:25 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin)

Full Title: New report suggests that the footballs used by the Patriots in 'Deflategate' were not nearly as bad as initially reported

A new light has been cast on the use of illegal footballs by the New England Patriots during the AFC Championship game and if true, suddenly Deflategate does not sounds nearly as egregious.

According to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, 11 of the 12 balls used by the Patriots were under the allowed limit of 12.5 Pounds per Square Inch (PSI) of pressure. However, most of the balls were not nearly as deflated as many originally believed.

"As far as the 11 footballs that I am told were below the 12.5 PSI, one was about two pounds under," Rapoport said on NFL Network. "Several were about a pound under, and several more were just a tick below 12.5 PSI."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/new-england-patriots-deflategate-balls-2015-2#ixzz3QWd0FxLv

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: deflategate
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To: InterceptPoint

Yep ... just watch the game ... :-) ...


41 posted on 02/01/2015 1:14:45 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
If what was demonstrated by HeadSmart Labs on that YouTube video was true, then the MSM has a LOT of egg on their faces.
42 posted on 02/01/2015 1:16:19 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: discostu

Clarification:

The size and pressure rule apparently predates 1940, and is derived from the manufacturers specifications on how to treat the Footballs. No one cared before.

Goodell in particular has stated in response to a question at a presser that he’s unaware of football pressure ever having been measured at halftime of an NFL game. No one else seems to have heard of it either...which shouldn’t be a surprise.


43 posted on 02/01/2015 1:16:36 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: timestax
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44 posted on 02/01/2015 1:17:06 PM PST by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: onedoug

What are these evil mystical symbols you type?

Is that how Belichick called upon the forces of nature to deflate footballs for him?

/s


45 posted on 02/01/2015 1:19:23 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: InterceptPoint

Why would you believe it didn’t happen to the Packers balls? No one ever measured.


46 posted on 02/01/2015 1:20:39 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: RayChuang88

There are literally dozens of videos (perhaps hundreds by now). They have been done by a wide variety of people all across the country, from high school kids to engineers, to folks with PhDs.. Boyles law was first published in 1662.

Though Bill Nye is still an idiot. He’s the only one I’ve seen who claims to have failed to replicate the results of cooling...and that because he didn’t actually measure the result.


47 posted on 02/01/2015 1:27:29 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton

Which kind of make the rule make sense, at least in that the numbers aren’t entirely arbitrary. Of course they still need to consider whether it matters. The funny part is that this has been discussed in interviews for years, but only as a “some QBs like it different and sometimes they get it the way they want” discussion for the addicted.


48 posted on 02/01/2015 1:28:11 PM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: freedumb2003

“the signal “stealing” that was perfectly legal until just before that event occurred so”

So they were cheating. How could they have missed a rule change like that?


49 posted on 02/01/2015 1:28:52 PM PST by duffee (Dump the Chairman of the Mississippi Republican Party, joe nosef.)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

50 posted on 02/01/2015 1:32:05 PM PST by FlJoePa
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To: duffee

1) signal stealing isn’t what was illegal. It still isn’t.

2) The rule didn’t change, instead the NFL office sent out a badly worded memo which was not actually in accordance with the rule.

3) Belichick accepted it and sucked it up, and later Goodell came out with an over the top punishment rather than admit his office couldn’t write a memo. He had just been appointed commissioner a few months earlier.

4) just the previous year (2006) the Patriots had complained that in addition to the Jets tit-for-tat thing going on with ex-Patriots coach Mangini, the Dolphins had Coordinated with the local Miami TV stations for the use of their shotgun mikes and parabolic dishes to record line calls and turn them over to the team. After the 2006 season, the NFL ruled that since the stations were authorized coverage, that it wasn’t a violation of the rules.

5) Even Mangini claims it wasn’t actually a big thing. He just didn’t want them filming from there and it blew up all out of control.

6) to this day, most people upset about it have no idea what it was about.


51 posted on 02/01/2015 1:42:17 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: duffee

7) the rule was about not using taped materials during the game, which Belichick was exonerated of.

8) the memo was about where the taping could be done from.


52 posted on 02/01/2015 1:45:21 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

Another piece of under reported news is that the refs don’t actually measure the psi of the footballs before the game or at half time, they just accept or reject the footballs submitted by each team.

Go Pats!


53 posted on 02/01/2015 1:59:20 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: lepton

Si.


54 posted on 02/01/2015 2:02:17 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

Given the minimum NFL allowed ball pressure is what Brady likes and the field temperature was less than the room temperature, physics tells us that the game balls on the field will be less than allowable pressure. More than a half pound is probably too much, but, the ball that concerns me is the ball that was over pressure in the game, and, that Tom Brady was not being well served by his ball manager.


55 posted on 02/01/2015 2:03:30 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)

Whaaa whaaa whaaa! If you can’t catch a ball that has as little as an ounce of air pressure, you shouldn’t call yourself a professional football player. Get over yourselves. You lost big time. Deal with it.


56 posted on 02/01/2015 2:28:07 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: zzwhale

DEFLATRIOTS!


57 posted on 02/01/2015 2:34:45 PM PST by Samurai_Jack (War is cruelty, there is no use trying to reform it; the crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.)
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To: Charles H. (The_r0nin)
I don't have a dog in this hunt but just how many "reports" about the PSI of these balls are there going to be? This issue is based upon the assumption that there is a perfect way to inflate and hold the PSI of a football without air leakage over time. Just like tires deflate over time, so will footballs. And heat and cold will change the PSI as the air inside the balls expands or shrinks. I mean how hard is it to palm a needle valve and sneak a little air out of some balls during the game itself?

This is so much about nothing, it's unbelievable. Is this what the media and the public need to spend their time on? Some people act like this is as important as national security or Medicare fraud. It is not. It's almost embarrassingly sophomoric.

58 posted on 02/01/2015 2:35:21 PM PST by HotHunt
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To: CapnJack

It’s always amazed me how people can get so worked up about something like this & so uninvolved with anything really important that’s going on.


59 posted on 02/01/2015 3:52:17 PM PST by oldtech
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To: lepton

Or it is possible someone was up to something?


60 posted on 02/01/2015 4:25:31 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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