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RUSSIANS 63 MILES OFF, BERLIN HEARS GUNS; AMERICANS WIN SUBIC BAY NAVY BASE ON LUZON (2/1/45)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 2/1/45 | Clifton Daniel, Lindesay Parrott, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 02/01/2015 4:24:13 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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KEYWORDS: history; milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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To: fso301

Interesting photos, in a really icky way!


21 posted on 02/01/2015 7:07:12 AM PST by Tax-chick ("It's always a longer trip when you defy God." ~ Msgr. Charles Pope)
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To: Tax-chick
When people are starving as they hear the Red Army approaching, but still insist the Third Reich is going strong ... they’re some kind of bats.

This can happen when access to information is as tightly controlled as it is in totalitarian societies.

I'm sure the German radio and print media was blaring statements such as, The situation in the East is difficult but we still hold territory in Poland, Lithuania, France, Italy, Yugoslavia, Hungary, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Netherlands, Denmark and Norway. Be strong and hold fast! The Fuher's wonder weapons will soon arrive to decisively turn the tide of battle!

22 posted on 02/01/2015 8:01:34 AM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

LOL! She mentioned the promise of the “wonder weapons.” The nickname in German was “WuWa,” and it became a synonym for idiotic blather, like, “BlahBlah.”

It’s a terrific book. The author is the youngest daughter, born after her father’s death. They all made it to Maine, somehow (I haven’t read that part yet) and all the children grew up to be very successful. The mother lived to be nearly 90.


23 posted on 02/01/2015 8:06:15 AM PST by Tax-chick ("It's always a longer trip when you defy God." ~ Msgr. Charles Pope)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
February 1, 1944:


Folke Bernadotte "In the closing days of the war, Count Folke Bernadotte, vice-president of the Swedish Red Cross, used his diplomatic skill to rescue Jews from the clutches of the Nazis.
His negotiating efforts saved the lives of 423 Danish Jews imprisoned at Theresienstadt, Czechoslovakia.
In a daring wartime operation, the Jews were not only rescued from death but delivered by a convoy of buses to safety in Denmark.

"To save Jewish lives, Bernadotte met several times with Heinrich Himmler.
While Bernadotte negotiated to save Jews from slaughter, Himmler used them as a bargaining chip in his quest to conclude a separate peace with the Western Allies, a ploy the Allies would firmly reject.
Bernadotte's negotiations with Himmler resulted in freedom for some 14,000 women imprisoned in the Ravensbrück, Germany, concentration camp.
The women were transferred to Denmark, then to Sweden."

"After their epic victory over German forces at the Battle of Stalingrad in the winter of 1942-43, the Soviets moved steadily westward until capturing Berlin on May 2, 1945.
Following the Normandy invasion on June 6, 1944, the Western Allies unleashed more than two million troops, who pushed eastward over the next 11 months."

"Soviet soldiers trample a Nazi flag as they march westward early in 1945. Under such skilled leaders as Marshals Konstantin K. Rokossovky and Ivan S. Konev, the Soviet Army swept from one victory to another.
In spite of sometimes ferocious German resistance, the Soviets captured Warsaw and Gdansk in Poland as they pushed toward their ultimate goal of crossing the Oder River to capture Berlin."



24 posted on 02/01/2015 9:38:45 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective.)
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To: fso301
The photo on p9 shows a tree in the foreground which if growing from ground more or less even with the highway is of impressive size.

I get the sense that the photographer is standing atop a hill overlooking the highway, quite a steep one, which is why he chose that as his vantage-point, and that the tree is rooted a good way up that hill. Otherwise it would be difficult to account for its leafless trunk so high above the highway.

25 posted on 02/01/2015 10:23:26 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: fso301; Tax-chick
There is a basic human need to acknowledge a higher power; that which is greater than mere mortals and in whose existence you had to place your faith. Christians know it as "seeking the Lord." Communist societies could not extirpate that need. So instead of eliminating it, they tried to hijack it with their own bibles

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saintly relics,

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churches:

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and religious icons

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26 posted on 02/01/2015 10:49:25 AM PST by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: henkster

Very well stated. It also seems that Hitler was attempting to substitute himself as a figure of worship—it’s hard to see the fanatical mass rallies like in Nuremburg as anything else. Mass “Sieg Heil” in unison!


27 posted on 02/01/2015 11:02:37 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

From Atkinson’s “The Guns at Last Light”
As the chiefs convened again on Thursday afternoon, February 1, Marshall asked the room be cleared of all subordinate officers and note-takers. No sooner had Brooke taken his chair, than Marshall bored in. Why were the British so worried about the influence of Bradley and Patton had on Eisenhower? What about Roosevelt’s influence? Did the British think that was pernicious too? “The president practically never sees General Eisenhower, and never writes to him. That is at my advice because he is an Allied commander,” Marshall said, eyebrows knot and voice rising to a wrathful timbre. In fact, the British chiefs could not be “nearly as much worried as the American chiefs of staff are about the immediate pressures of Mr. Churchill on General Eisenhower.” The prime minister never hesitates to hector the supreme commander directly, day or night, circumventing the Combined Chiefs. “I think your worries,: Marshall declared, “are on the wrong foot.”

He had not finished. Should the British succeed in interposing a ground commander between the supreme commander and his three army group commanders, Marshall intended to resign – or so he had told Eisenhower. Montgomery was behind much of this pother, Marshall charged; despite being given “practically everything he asked for.” Including the U.S. Ninth Army, he plainly craved “complete command.” If truth be told, Montgomery was an “over-cautious commander who wants everything: an “impudent and disloyal subordinate” who treated all American officers with “open contempt.”

A stunned silence followed this tirade. After the war, Brooke would write: “Marshall clearly understood nothing of strategy and could not even argue out the relative merits of various alternatives. Being unable to judge for himself he trusted and backed Ike, and felt it his duty to guard him from interference.” But Admiral Cunningham, the first sea lord, later observed that “Marshall’s complaint was not unjustified.”

For now, American indignation carried the day. Brooke fell silent, the chiefs promptly agreed to endorse SHAEF’s mast plan, and the last great internecine tempest of the war subsided. For another month, the British conspired to replace Tedder as deputy supreme commander with Harold Alexander, whom they considered more pliant despite Brooke’s dismissal of him as “a very small man [who] cannot see big.” Eisenhower, braced by Marshall, advised London that if Alexander should arrive at SHAEF from Italy, he would find few military duties to occupy him. Spaatz would succeed Tedder as senior airman in the west, and there would be “no question whatsoever of placing between me and my army group commanders any intermediary headquarters.”

Few could doubt that the Americans now had the whip hand. “The P.M. was sore,” Kay Summersby jotted in her diary, ‘but E said he would get over it.”


28 posted on 02/01/2015 1:20:03 PM PST by occamrzr06 (A great life is but a series of dogs!)
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To: occamrzr06

Fascinating glimpse behind the curtain. Thanks for posting it.


29 posted on 02/01/2015 1:34:52 PM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: occamrzr06
“Marshall’s complaint was not unjustified.”

Classic British understatement.

Montgomery was behind much of this pother, Marshall charged; despite being given “practically everything he asked for.” Including the U.S. Ninth Army, he plainly craved “complete command.” If truth be told, Montgomery was an “over-cautious commander who wants everything: an “impudent and disloyal subordinate” who treated all American officers with “open contempt.”

Classic British arrogance.

30 posted on 02/01/2015 8:50:19 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Jeb Bush should be running for president of Mexico.)
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To: Tax-chick

The serene look on the ladies of that day.

Much rarer today. How I miss that.


31 posted on 02/02/2015 9:45:46 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: fso301

Communism, as reflected in their edifices, is basically the worship of man and the tyrannical rule of man, like Nazism, Marxism, and Fabian Socialism.


32 posted on 02/02/2015 9:50:24 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: PapaNew

They were often smiling, too, instead of looking both stupid and annoyed.


33 posted on 02/02/2015 9:51:03 AM PST by Tax-chick ("It's always a longer trip when you defy God." ~ Msgr. Charles Pope)
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To: BroJoeK
Folke Bernadotte "In the closing days of the war, Count Folke Bernadotte, vice-president of the Swedish Red Cross, used his diplomatic skill to rescue Jews from the clutches of the Nazis. His negotiating efforts saved the lives of 423 Danish Jews imprisoned at Theresienstadt, Czechoslovakia. In a daring wartime operation, the Jews were not only rescued from death but delivered by a convoy of buses to safety in Denmark.

"To save Jewish lives, Bernadotte met several times with Heinrich Himmler. While Bernadotte negotiated to save Jews from slaughter, Himmler used them as a bargaining chip in his quest to conclude a separate peace with the Western Allies, a ploy the Allies would firmly reject. Bernadotte's negotiations with Himmler resulted in freedom for some 14,000 women imprisoned in the Ravensbrück, Germany, concentration camp.

Would like to see Steven Spielberg to a movie on that, like he did with Schindler's List.

34 posted on 02/02/2015 9:54:40 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: henkster

The worship of man which unmasked is really a worship and relinquishing of power to Satan.


35 posted on 02/02/2015 9:56:32 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: occamrzr06

Looks like more and continuing Monty issues? What gave rise to this crisis meeting this time? Seems like there are more SHAEF meetings about how to handle the British than how to defeat the Nazis.


36 posted on 02/02/2015 10:05:01 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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To: Tax-chick

Yes. God’s plan for girls and ladies leaves them happy and serene, howbeit there is a price to pay for it.

Today’s annoyed and stern looks say something about the results of girls and ladies going the wrong way.


37 posted on 02/02/2015 10:08:42 AM PST by PapaNew (The grace of God & freedom always win the debate in the forum of ideas over unjust law & government)
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