Posted on 01/30/2015 6:56:57 AM PST by C19fan
You have accurately summarized the defects in this “bolthole” strategy...
If “safety” in the coming insanity is what they seek, this ain’t it...
I don’t know but anything is better than Pennsylvania.
Tell him if it’s that important, that I’m regurgitating the Brownies back into the MRE packages and resealing them.
He’ll never be able to taste the difference.
I agree completely, but I’m just looking at it tactically.
First, the only people you’d trust are family. Second, between mines and gas, you can protect a compound fairly readily unless you are completely overrun, and the folks overrunning you are pretty well equipped.
You can’t afford to have a staff in a bunker, for all kinds of reasons, not the least of which the very valid one you indicated in your post.
It’s an intriguing question - maximum protection with minimum personnel.
Remotely operated gun turrets using .22, .223, 9mm, and other ammo that doesn’t cost $5 per round (.50 cal) sometimes are great for keeping stragglers away.
The idea would be to design something your family could live in that could be defended against a large, moderately equipped force. 50 people maybe, armed with small arms and some explosives. Assuming 5 people in your family, or 10 in your extended family, you are looking to defend yourself against 10 to 1 odds.
A positive pressure system with a gas deployment rig that could dispense tear gas, pepper, chlorine, all the way up to a sleep agent. The best gasses are the ones you can make yourself, or get without much of a fuss.
Most of where you’d have to live would be underground, and it would be expensive.
When I was a kid Bert Rutan built a house in AZ that was seven stories underground, with all but four feet sticking up out of the ground. The place was big, bright, and had a creek running through the place with a water wheel on the main level to keep things inside humid enough.
It was in Popular Mechanics when I was a kid. You could militarize and defend that place with just a family. It would be an expensive retrofit, and you couldn’t use computers.
I was told by someone I believe would be knowledgeable on the subject (he was a friend of James Golden’s) that yes indeed Rush does own a NZ retreat and has his jet outfitted to make the trip non-stop from South Florida.
As I said on a previous thread on this subject: sanctuary in NZ will only be necessary in a situation where there is a total societal breakdown and governments not only lose control but cease to exist.
How many SSBNs does the US have at sea at any given time? What are the chances that one of the crews, with no more National Command Authority to take direction from and knowing that their families/loved ones have been swallowed up by the chaos, decides to cleanse NZ with thermonuclear fire, removing all the rich pr*cks who have taken refuge there and making it uninhabitable for the next 10,000 years?
If it was someone like me, (and I was in the Navy) the odds are not too bad.
LOL! :-)
Thank you for all that information. Not surprising to see NZ so high on the Human Development Index. The Economic Freedom Index will be interesting to watch, especially if the people kick out their more Conservative govt. who cut a lot of “stuff.”
Declining crime rates could be tied to keeping more of the really bad guys in jail/prison. Is it a big business in NZ like it is here in America (Prisons)? It sounds like the Maoris suffer at their own hand just like the Blacks do in America, but for different reasons to be sure.
Last I heard there are about 4 million people who live in NZ, so hopefully the influx of the Elitist foreigners will be more of a plus than a negative and help the economy grow. I understand that James Cameron and his family live there now, and he will film more Avatar sequels there.
You are correct. I have friends in NZ who pay $1200/month for a small, rather shabby apartment in Wellington. They thought their energy costs were moderate when they were paying $12/day for electricity. Appliances are also expensive and not that great, IMO.
OTOH, if your income/wealth is USD, currently, the NZ$ is about 72% of a USD. While that also drives prices higher, there is a premium for American money. And from what few reports I have had, salaries are higher in NZ than in the US.
If you eat locally grown food, it isn’t that expensive. Haven’t visited since 2000, but the restaurant prices at the marina in Auckland were ridiculously low in American terms.
Of course, they also complain of the *cold* when it is 44F!!
They might want to look at the gun control laws...
Heck, I don't care, just so long as they're...delicious...
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