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In major move, Mormon apostles call for statewide LGBT protections [UT]
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 01/27/2015 | PEGGY FLETCHER STACK

Posted on 01/27/2015 9:42:27 AM PST by GIdget2004

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To: JonathanCV

Charitable teachings?


41 posted on 01/28/2015 2:27:24 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: JonathanCV

Fruits? That statement applies to false prophets.


42 posted on 01/28/2015 2:28:39 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Colofornian

Since only men can have their own planet so they can produce children, how does that whole deal workout with male homosexual?
Female homosexuals of course won’t get a planet.


43 posted on 01/28/2015 2:30:43 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: svcw

That would depend upon the Mormon gods’ allowance of gay marriage, which won’t happen until gays can be “married” in Mormon temples...no temple marriage, no planet you can call “yours”...and no living eternally with Heavenly Father either per Mormondom


44 posted on 01/28/2015 2:39:18 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian; JonathanCV; svcw

Oh yes the temple wedding..

Well its a good thing that Obama’s Mom and Dad got a temple wedding along with all her other goodies afforded her by the Mormons during her dead dunking err baptism of the dead in June 2008..

and that sealing of her to her son Barack Obama assures that he and his parents will all be in the top level of the Mormon heaven..one white woman and two black men..seems fair...

White man Mormon Jonathon still has to work his way up and HEY !!! may not make it...

Oh noez !!!


45 posted on 01/28/2015 2:53:00 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: GIdget2004; All
Thread just posted:
No grand bargain with the sexual revolutionaries [Biblical Studies Prof: LDS culturally naive]
46 posted on 01/28/2015 8:38:16 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Lazamataz
Fire at will.

Me???


Aw...  shucks...
 


47 posted on 01/31/2015 2:39:43 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: elcid1970
Or maybe it’s “we don’t care what you do with your plumbing as long as we get your tithing”.

HMMMmmm...



48 posted on 01/31/2015 2:40:56 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian
Mormon leaders rushing to make "sexual orientation" a civil protection in housing and employment has been going on for over five years:


49 posted on 01/31/2015 2:41:54 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: exit82
What does this have to do with Mormon teachings?

Well...



I'm a MORMON ...
 
 
 

http://www.affirmation.org/




50 posted on 01/31/2015 2:44:18 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Lazamataz
Gloating is so unprofessional. :/

But it DOES suffuse thine self with a warm feeling.

Kinda like peeing in a cold swim suit.

51 posted on 01/31/2015 2:45:41 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JonathanCV
(I plan to keep practicing until I get it right),

Good luck.

52 posted on 01/31/2015 2:46:14 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JonathanCV
Apostle Jeffrey R. Holland said today that nothing is achieved if we resort to bullying, political point scoring, accusations of bigotry or other forms of compulsion.

Golly!

What ever happened to the GOOD old days of MormonISM?


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

53 posted on 01/31/2015 2:47:43 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JonathanCV
By their fruits ye shall know them.

This verse is talking about FALSE PROPHETS.

It is OBVIOUS, that if you are a MORMON, you do NOT know the 'fruits' of your founder and his successors!


Matthew 7:15-20     King James Version (KJV)

15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

54 posted on 01/31/2015 2:51:03 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SZonian
No, I suspect that once again, blind obedience to the "prophet" takes precedence over actually looking at the slide the mormons have been taking the past few years. Afterall, if the "prophet" is questioned, one's temple recommend is now forfeit, thus celestial "glory" is as well.

It sure does seem this way!!




In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these “Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet”, for our salvation depends on them.


1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say “Thus Saith the Lord,” to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by men’s reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidency—the highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer.

I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captain—how close do our lives harmonize with the Lord’s anointed—the living Prophet—President of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.

Ezra Taft Benson

(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)     http://www.lds.org/liahona/1981/06/fourteen-fundamentals-in-following-the-prophet?lang=eng

55 posted on 01/31/2015 2:52:36 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: All

I am not a Mormon, and disagree profoundly with the tenets of that church. Nevertheless, I dare say Joseph Smith, Brigham Young, and the other founders of the LDS Church and more contemporary leaders like Ezra Taft Benson would be horrified at their descendants’ attitude towards homosexual perversion. Mormons do not reject the Bible, and it clearly condemns sex outside of matrimony, historically defined as a lifelong union of one man and one woman.


56 posted on 01/31/2015 2:52:47 PM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Colofornian; JonathanCV; SZonian; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; Elsie; Zakeet; All
"...consented to a court order earlier this week that bans him from using any variation of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and forbids him from interfering with the church's use of the word Mormon."

Well; ya see... it's like this....


Media Letter   
26 June 2008 — Salt Lake City  (http://newsroom.lds.org/additional-resource/media-letter)

*The following is a letter from Elder Lance B. Wickman, General Counsel of the Church to publishers of major newspapers, TV stations and magazines. It was sent out on Tuesday, June 24, 2008.




Recent events have focused the media spotlight on a polygamous sect near San Angelo, Texas, calling itself the “Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.” As you probably know, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has absolutely no affiliation with this polygamous sect. Decades ago, the founders of that sect rejected the doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, were excommunicated, and then started their own religion. To the best of our knowledge, no one at the Texas compound has ever been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Unfortunately, however, some of the media coverage of the recent events in Texas has caused members of the public to confuse the doctrines and members of that group and our church. We have received numerous inquiries from confused members of the public who, by listening to less than careful media reports, have come to a grave misunderstanding about our respective doctrines and faith. Based on these media reports many have erroneously concluded that there is some affiliation between the two – or even worse, that they are one and the same.

Over the years, in a careful effort to distinguish itself, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has gone to significant lengths to protect its rights in the name of the church and related matters. Specifically, we have obtained registrations for the name “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” “Mormon,” “Book of Mormon” and related trade and service marks from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and corresponding agencies in a significant number of foreign countries.

We are confident that you are committed to avoiding misleading statements that cause unwarranted confusion and that may disparage or infringe the intellectual property rights discussed above. Accordingly, we respectfully request the following:

  1. As reflected in the AP Style Guide, we ask that you and your organization refrain from referring to members of that polygamous sect as “fundamentalist Mormons” or “fundamentalist” members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  2. We ask that, when reporting about this Texas-based polygamous sect or any other polygamous group, you avoid either explicitly or implicitly any inference that these groups are affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  3. On those occasions when it may be necessary in your reporting to refer to the historical practice of plural marriage in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, that you make very clear that the Church does not condone the practice of polygamy and that it has been forbidden in the Church for over one hundred years. Moreover, we absolutely condemn arranged or forced “marriages” of underage girls to anyone under any circumstances.

Stated simply, we would like to be known and recognized for whom we are and what we believe, and not be inaccurately associated with beliefs and practices that we condemn in the strongest terms. We would be grateful if you could circulate or copy this letter to your editorial staff and to your legal counsel.

We thank you for your consideration of these important matters.

Sincerely,

Lance B. Wickman

General Counsel

57 posted on 01/31/2015 2:55:01 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Colofornian; JonathanCV; SZonian; greyfoxx39; Tennessee Nana; Zakeet; All
We thank you for your consideration of these important matters.

Sincerely,

Lance B. Wickman

General Counsel


Threat??

What threat???

58 posted on 01/31/2015 2:55:59 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Wallace T.
Mormons do not reject the Bible...

Heck; they 'reject' the Book of MORMON!!!


 

Trinity:

 

found in the Book of MORMON        -----------   rejected in the Doctrines and Covenants 

Book of Mormon:

Now Zeezrom said: Is there more than one God? And he answered, No. (Alma 11:28-29)

...and be arraigned before the bar of Christ the Son, and God the Father, and the Holy Spirit, which is one Eternal God, to be judged according to their works, whether they be good or whether they be evil. (Alma 11:44)

...doctrine of Christ, and the only and true doctrine of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, which is one God, without end. Amen. (2 Nephi 31:21)

...praises with the choirs above, unto the Father, and unto the Son, and unto the Holy Ghost, which are one God, in a state of happiness which hath no end. (Mormon 7:7)

...power of God; and the Son, because of the flesh; thus becoming the Father and Son--And they are one God, yea, the very Eternal Father of heaven and of earth. And thus the flesh becoming subject to the Spirit, or the Son to the Father, being one God, (Mosiah 15:3-5)

...of Jared, that whoso should possess this land of promise, from that time henceforth and forever, should serve him, the true and only God, or they should be swept off when the fulness of his wrath should come upon them. (Ether 2:8)


"Behold, I am Jesus Christ the Son of God. I created the heavens and the earth, and all things that in them are. I was with the Father from the beginning. I am in the Father, and the Father in me; and in me hath the Father glorified his name." (3 Nephi 9:15)


"And again the Lord called others, and said unto them likewise; and he gave unto them power to baptize. And he said unto them: On this wise shall ye baptize; and there shall be no disputations among you. Verily I say unto you, that whoso repenteth of his sins through your words and desireth to be baptized in my name, on this wise shall ye baptize them--Behold, ye shall go down and stand in the water, and in my name shall ye baptize them. And now behold, these are the words which ye shall say, calling them by name, saying: Having authority given me of Jesus Christ, I baptize you in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. And then shall ye immerse them in the water, and come forth again out of the water. And after this manner shall ye baptize in my name; for behold, verily I say unto you, that the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one; and I am in the Father, and the Father in me, and the Father and I are one...And thus will the Father bear record of me, and the Holy Ghost will bear record unto him of the Father and me; for the Father, and I, and the Holy Ghost are one." (3 Nephi 11:22-27, 36)

Doctrine and Covenants:

According to that which was ordained in the midst of the Council of the Eternal God of all other gods before this world was, that should be reserved unto the finishing and the end thereof, when every man shall enter into his eternal presence and into his immortal rest. (Section 121:32)

And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that covenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God. And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and everlasting covenant, and it is sealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of promise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the keys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them--Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit thrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths--then shall it be written in the Lamb's Book of Life, that he shall commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their exaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the seeds forever and ever. Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from everlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be gods, because they have all power, and the angels are subject unto them. (Section 132:18-20)

Abraham received concubines, and they bore him children; and it was accounted unto him for righteousness, because they were given unto him, and he abode in my law; as Isaac also and Jacob did none other things than that which they were commanded; and because they did none other things than that which they were commanded, they have entered into their exaltation, according to the promises, and sit upon thrones, and are not angels but are gods. (Section 132:37)

 

 

59 posted on 01/31/2015 3:00:39 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GIdget2004
Utah's predominant faith ...

Around 60.7% I think...


I wonder what MY state would be like if, say, 60.7% of the population were LIBERALS?

60 posted on 01/31/2015 3:02:23 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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